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Dave Lindorff: Obama, Seeing Darkness, Conjures up the Mists of Time

Back in 1965, as a 15-year-old kid, I had a chance to spend half a year as a student at a boy's gymnasium (high school) in Darmstadt, the cultural capital of the German state of Hesse, which had the distinction of having been one of a handful of cities in Germany (Dresden was another) that were selected by the Allies to test out the terror tactic of firebombing. The town was chosen for incendiary bombardment precisely because it had no military value and thus, no air defenses (and because it consisted mostly of wooden structures). With Germany still wreaking horrific damage on the Allied bomber fleet, this made it an inviting target.

Friends and teachers recounted to me the terrors of that night, when the entire city of several hundred thousand, built mostly of wood, went up in a giant bonfire so hot and powerful that it sucked people into it with a 200 mph vortex of inward rushing air. People who hid in shelters were asphyxiated by the lack of oxygen, while those who tried to flee sank knee deep into asphalt streets. Two mountains outside town were man-made piles of rubble left over from the city's ruins, which were for the most part just carted away. There was little left to rebuild.

While I was stunned by the horror of it at the time, I still felt that after all, Germans had brought this disaster on themselves. After all, they had allowed the Nazi monsters to gain control of the nation and then proceeded with a genocidal campaign of extermination of Jews -- even German Jews who were their own neighbors -- of Gypsies, gays, and of course, Communists, and had launched a war that ultimately killed tens of millions of people around the world.


I mention all this because one thing I noticed back then, not among young people in Germany, but among adults my parents' age and older, was a widespread denial about what Germany had done. And I remember feeling, as many Americans and Europeans still do, and as many Chinese and other Asians still feel about Japan, that these two countries have never been willing to face up to the crimes that they, as a nation, permitted to happen in their names.

Older and wiser now, I am well aware that our own country has committed many crimes, some on a scale approaching those of Germany and Japan: the near extermination of Native Americans, the mass, centuries-long enslavement and cultural and physical destruction of millions of African slaves, the use of nuclear bombs on civilian targets, the decade-long saturation bombing and herbicidal poisoning of most of Indochina.

It's a long and terrible list, and for the most part, in our schools, in our politics, in our histories, we don't talk about, and even justify and deny our own atrocities.

Now we have a president who is perhaps doing something worse. Admitting that the last administration of President George Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney ordered up a program of illegal and inhuman torture of captives in the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars and in the so-called War on Terror that was launched by them in the wake of the 9-11 attacks in 2001, and offering up documentary evidence of the chain of command that set the country on this criminal course, President Obama now says that to move beyond this "dark and painful chapter in our history," he will not seek or permit any prosecution of those who committed torture of captives.

"Nothing will be gained," Obama said, "by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past."

I'm not that concerned about whether individual torturers in the CIA or the military get prosecuted. If the president had said he would not prosecute people who "thought" they were acting under proper authority and behaving legally, but then added that he would pursue those who authorized and ordered them to torture, I would not have fussed. But that is not what he said. The implication of his statement, and the fact that he has not, this far into his term, ordered his Attorney General to appoint a prosecutor to investigate those who were responsible for the crime, given what he clearly knows about its authors, is the worst possible of travesties, and rises to the level of a war crime itself.

Now I don't want to equate America's torture of a few hundred or a few thousand captives by making them endure waterboarding or by placing plastic neckbands and leashes on them and slamming their heads into walls, with what the victims of Buchenwald or Auschwitz endured, but that is really not the issue. The issue is, do we as a nation now subscribe to the idea that the way to deal with evil perpetrated by ourselves is to bury it?

Isn't that precisely what we have been for decades accusing the Germans and the Japanese of doing: burying in the mists of time their criminal behavior as a people and as a nation?

And now our president -- whose own wife and daughters are descendants of slave victims of another era of American atrocities -- is telling us we should do the same thing as Germany and Japan: forget and move on.

But the president is wrong. Darkness does not go away when the fog comes. It just gets darker.

Let's shine a light. Sign the petition: No Amnesty for Torturers! 
 
DAVE LINDORFF is a Philadelphia-based journalist. His latest work is "The Case for Impeachment" (St. Martin's Press, 2009). His work is available at www.thiscantbehappening.net.




Nazis?

We are Nazi Germany in kind, not in degree. The ideal of the U.S., which we've never lived up to, makes it necessary for us to go after these people and prosecute them. True justice, of course, demands that they hang at Nuremberg.

Killing is itself against

Killing is itself against the law - look it up - all that stands in the way of George Bush being held accountable for any American or Iraqi that died - is #1 apply the murder charge and #2 make the murder charge stick - and presto.

The trouble with this all or nothing approach is you get nada

If you'd read my book, "The Case for Impeachment," written in early 2006, you'd know I laid out the whole criminal indictment of Bush and Cheney, including some you left off your list. But people like you who say it's wrong to go after torture while not pursuing the other charges will end up getting nothing. Torture, because it is a violation not just of international law, about which the US and most jingoistic American's don't give a tinker's damn, but of the US criminal code, stands a chance of being actually prosecuted, not the least because many ordinary Americans, and most people in uniform, are outraged and offended by it, and either understand, or can be made to understand, that it actually led to the deaths of several thousand Americans, becuase it actually was the main motive for recruiting so many people to oppose the US occupation in Iraq. We have a real chance to press and get prosecutions going of Yoo, Gonzalez, Judge Bybee (who should also be impeached from his judicial post) Addington, and perhaps Rumsfeld. Then we could move on to Cheney and Bush. It is highly unlikely that there will ever be a case brought against Bush or Cheney in the US for invading Iraq, though there certainly should be. Overseas is another matter. Perhaps, as the US declines to third world status, some country like France will summon the courage to do it. Meantime, when you see an opening grab it, don't just be a mouth and blow it off. Dave Lindorff www.thiscantbehappening.net

No there isnt any real

No there isnt any real chance of prosecuting Yoo, Gonzalez, Cheney, Addington, or any of them. Maybe in Switzerland. Maybe in Spain. There is a real reality that every one of them will ride off into the sunset, rich. There is a real reality of how the political game is played in America - oh there is a chance that Obama will spend his life in the slammer over a blowjob - to the extent there is any chance of Republicans re-taking power. There is a real chance of a Truth Commission, there is a slight chance of perjury charges related to the commission, there is a real chance of documents being released to the public as we have seen. There is a slight chance of un-covering the truth that Bush was was maliciously intentionally planning how to lie Americans into wars with Iraq and Iran.

Bush, mass-killer, guilty of

Bush, mass-killer, guilty of burning thousands, blowing up, ripping up, bombing to death, shooting up, napalming, white-phosphorous - and you are going to charge him with putting people in stress posisions.

Bush tried as hard as he could to engulf America in wars based on lies - got Iraq - didnt get Iran - all perfectly legal by the way from a position of power to foment wars based on lies.

Get real with this awfaul "hold them accountable" charade. I hate to be the one to bust the bubble. Guess what. In America, when the more authoritarian of two presidential candidates, gets into power - they dont get held accountable for what they do. Sorry to be the one to tell you. Guess how the system works. Guess what, Dick Cheney, George Bush, Addington Rumsfeld and all them, they are all going to ride off into the sunset, get introduced as heroes at upper crust black tie dinners, and titillate themselves in luxury for the rest of their lives.

Guilty too

If Obama and Holder let all of the war criminals go free, they are guilty of aiding and abetting torture.