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Dave Lindorff: Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and the "Stupid" Vote

I want to be clear here from the start: there is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Stupidity is a lack of intelligence. But even here, there are subsets. Some ignorance results from a lack of access to knowledge, while some is the result of a laziness or unwillingness to learn. Some stupidity is the result of some genetic or nutritional deficiency or perhaps of some abuse or lack of care or attention during early childhood, while some is the result of mental laziness or a willful desire not to think.

Having lived in Asia and traveled widely in the remoter areas of rural China, and in Laos and other desperately poor countries, I have had an opportunity to see people who are truly ignorant about many things, but who are anything but stupid. In a remote part of Anhui Province, back in the spring of 1992, for example, I visited a small village that had been completely inundated and destroyed a year earlier by an epic flood, which completely destroyed their rice fields and washed away their mud brick, dirt-floored homes. They had, in less than a year, rebuilt the town, and were preparing to plant a new rice crop. They were also, using nothing but their hands and wheelbarrows, building a massive levee that would keep the river at bay the next time around. The villagers had never seen an American in their lives, had no televisions or phones, and in most cases had never been farther than the next village, but they knew how to survive disasters that would have killed the average American.

They were also intensely interested in learning whatever they could from two visitors from halfway around the world. The whole village quickly crowded around me and my traveling companion, another American, peppering us with questions about America. We were invited into the home of a village elder, and served a delicious meal, which we ate among wandering chickens and rabbits in a dirt-floored room, as half the village peeked in through the window openings. Significantly, the thing they were proudest of, and which they brought us to see, was their new school.

I mention this because I am trying to imagine how the average American community would respond to a surprise visit by a couple of Chinese peasants from that village. I suspect that far from surrounding them and peppering them with questions about China, there would be calls to the local police to pick up to wandering vagrants. Instead of trying to communicate, and perhaps learn lessons about how to make gardens grow during a drought, local Americans would be studiously avoiding the visitors. An invitation to have dinner in a local home seems particularly unlikely.

When I lived in a small town in upstate New York for a few years back in the 1980s, I found myself briefly the president of the local little public library, which was wholly supported by donations. One year, we tried to get a donation of $1,000 from the local Lions Club, which had an annual carnival and donated the proceeds to worthy projects (ours was an expansion of the building to accommodate books which at the time were sitting in piled up boxes for lack of shelf space). The president of the Lions, a local businessman, responded to our request saying, "What do we need a library for? I haven't read a book in years!" (My fellow library board member, a local businesswoman herself, responded, "I'm not surprised to hear that, but I am surprised that you'd be willing to say it publicly.") I also remember overhearing, in the local supermarket checkout line, a cashier talking to her friend. She said, "I wish my daughter would drop out of high school and get a job. I mean, she's 16 already, and what does she need a high school diploma for? She can work a cash register without one."

All this brings me to Hillary Clinton's proud assertion that she is the candidate of the uneducated white worker. It is of course, precisely why she's likely to win the West Virginia primary today by a lopsided 75:25 or maybe a 60:40 margin. One news program I watched about the West Virginia primary yesterday included an interview with a Clinton supporter, in that state, an older woman who said she couldn't vote for Obama "because he's a Muslim." The reporter responded, "Well, for the record, you know he says he's a Christian." The woman replied, "Well I don't believe him." In West Virginia, one in four residents doesn't have a high school diploma. That compares to one in five nationally. I'm guessing this woman was one of that one in four. Only one in seven West Virginians holds a bachelor's degree, compared with one in four nationally.

Now taken by itself, this isn't to say West Virginians are stupid, or at least any stupider than the average American. (And don't get me wrong. I love West Virginia -- particularly its brilliant musical heritage and the musicians and artists of the region who carry on those traditions, and its gutsy labor union history, which played such a key role in the development of the American labor movement.) In large part, it is rather a reflection on the state's relatively low average income, a legacy of historically low expenditures on education, and a general lack of opportunity.

Moreover, I'm certain that many of those West Virginians who never completed high school are smarter than your average college grad, in the same way that the Chinese peasants I met in rural Anhui were smarter than many much better educated Americans. But I'm also certain that a lot of West Virginians without high school diplomas, like other Americans without an education, are woefully ignorant, and vulnerable to manipulation by candidates who appeal to their baser instincts and fears, as Clinton has been doing in her sinking campaign. It is why states such as West Virginia have, election after election, backed candidates such as George Bush, whose policies manifestly work against their own interests.

A depressingly large number of Americans, not just in West Virginia, but also across the land from Maine to California, including my own state of Pennsylvania, fall into this willfully stupid category. They are content to get their information from television programs that offer no facts -- just propaganda and ratings-boosting rants. They don't read newspapers. They reject facts that conflict with their prejudices. They'll believe that Barack Obama is a Muslim. They'll believe that Saddam Hussein was behind 9-11. They'll believe that the earth was created 6,000 years ago. They'll believe the moon landings were faked in a Hollywood studio.

Certainly one cohort of voters that is keeping the leaky Clinton dirigible airborne is women, particularly older women, for whom her candidacy is a feminist milestone. That is understandable. But the other cohort, which Clinton has referred to as "working, hard working, white Americans," and as "whites...who had not completed college," is hardly something she or any candidate should be bragging about.

And yet that is what she is doing: bragging that she's got a lock on the stupid, racist white vote.

She should be leaving that for John McCain.

DAVE LINDORFF is a Philadelphia-based journalist. His latest book is "The Case for Impeachment" (St. Martin's Press, 2006 and now available in paperback edition. His work is available at www.thiscantbehappening.net.

MickeyG - Oh yes, and...

Yep kick Chris out on his A$$, and hire Rachael Maddow (sp?). Now that would be an improvement!!!

Done in by their beliefs

Why is West Virginia so poor? Could it be that they do it to themselves? Others seem to vote for politicians who will serve their interests, but West Virginia voted twice for George W. Bush. And West Virginia has just voted for Hillary Clinton.

They believed Bush and they got nothing for that.

They believed Hillary. She said that she was the candidate for hard working WHITE people and they believed she was. But they should have been reminded of what she said about working class WHITE SOUTHERNERS in the 90s: "Screw 'em."

Believe me, West Virginia, she would have done it to you too, if she could win. But luckily for you, not everyone believes as you do.

America Left Behind

The No Child Left Behind Act has utterly failed to educate American children, and lack of internet access has crippled many adults. We are being dumbed down by intent. We can fix it though, starting with expanding internet access and prioritizing education in the next administration.

Getting to the point

I heard crazy Pat Buchanan say that in West Virginia the voters are saying to Barack Obama, "we don't want you around here", leave it to Buchanan to not mince words. The hard cold fact of the matter is that there are still large numbers of whites who can't stomach the idea of a racial minority becoming president, especially not a black male. It doesn't seem to matter that Barack Obama is the product of both white and black parentage, somehow he's the BLACK candidate as if he's been stained with something that blots out his whiteness. I continue to admire senator Obama for the way he seems not to let the constant references to race knock him off his stride.

ignorance of the talk radio monopoly

Since Reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine the Roves of the GOP have been framing with a nail gun while progressives have been using a rock. Talk radio has been the difference, even with other media consolidation (which was enabled to a large degree by the same TR monopoly). The biggest political blunder in the last 20 years, or longer when you factor the time lost dealing with climate change and implications of the bush disaster, was progressives ignoring the talk radio monopoly. Talk radio does the groundwork for the GOP. It isn't a matter of how distasteful or inane it is- it is the uncontested repetition to an often captive audience that counts. It is what makes most 'red' states 'red'- large areas with few alternatives to listen to on that ancient medium of information- radio. And until America has some new form of Fairness Doctrine or some other way to limit the monopoly, bipartisanship is for liars or fools and democracy is just about impossible. Getting a Dem in the White House, even this year, will be made much harder because of the talk radio monopoly. The rest of the lazy celebrity talking heads will use it to set the bar for what they can do to Clinton or Obama in getting Mccain into the White House. Right now it is being used to keep Clinton in the race. Most political and media analysis is done while discounting or even ignoring the effect of the Republican talk radio monopoly. Most media analysts read and watch. There are no talk radio transcripts to search to analyze to demonstrate the power of that coordinated uncontested repetition that reaches 50-70MIL Americans 24/5/365 and is used by the Roves and Norquists like an invisible hammer to whack their opponents in the democratic party and anyone in the media who would dare to criticize their annointed leaders and irrational policies. Since the Fairness Doctrine was killed by Reagan the GOP has had near complete free rein to frame and control the debate and the limits of the debate, to threaten and intimidate politicians without having to face those they threaten, to censor and to swiftboat anything and anyone progressive. The loudmouths lay out a smorgasbord of prechewed and tested one liners and talking points for the lazy celebrity media to pick from and most analysts only see the final result. Many of the political myths that dog progressives now could not have been created without the uncontested repetition of that talk radio monopoly. The Clintons, Gores, and Kerrys probably still don't know what really hit them. Those kinds of character hit jobs can't be done on TV and print alone, even with today's consolidation-- they have to put up an appearance of balance. Progressives have to begin at least including and even giving prominence to the talk radio factor or this will continue.

Poor access to information a major cause of stupidity

The young and the educated get their news from the internet and the old and poor from TV. WV is the Fox News demo, so the only thing they know about Obama is Rev. Wright. WV only achieved 53% broadband access last year. Obama's campaign is internet driven. Yes, there are some stupid, old and racist people in WV, but the digital divide is a big player in this. They are unfortunately a captive audience of the main stream media, which includes Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. That would make anyone stupid.

The view from Asia

While my own circle of "elitist" liberal friends, who did go to college are intelligent and fairly well informed, I have been generally appalled by the stupidity and ignorance of most Americans. I was once hanging out with my Republican colleague at a restaurant in Northern California, right after the 2000 stolen election (which was obvious to me but not to him). A young woman waitress said she had voted for Bush, which flabbergasted me since she was studying to be a teacher, and Republicans have a clear history of cutting funds for education. So I asked her, how could she be a Republican? She said that Republicans are well educated whereas Democrats are not (and stupid, too, in her unspoken opinion). So I said, "Gee since you are so well informed, can you tell me how many people the US government has killed since WWII? She thought for a bit and said, "500,000?" I said, "no that was the number we killed in Indonesia, or in Laos or in Cambodia. several million in Vietnam, etc." This is typical. When 911 happened, I said to my colleague, "You do know don't you, that Osama Bin Laden was hired by the CIA in Afghanistan, don't you?" He got very angry and said "Don't you say that!!" Both people utterly ignorant, and stupid, and to boot, willfully stupid and willfully ignorant. But I will go Lindorff one better. They are also supremely arrogant. And destructive. How else to explain decades of allowing millions of people to be killed or exploited in their name, while thinking that they are actually saving them, thinking that they are the best informed and have the best Democracy. Forgive my arrogance, but it is just too painful and toxic to deal with them. That is why, in my opinion, America is going down, and Asia is rising.

Chris Matthews of MSNBC..

Please, never again have an article with the word 'stupid' in it without inserting the name of Chris Matthews somewhere nearby.

Almost in a state of nirvana at the thought of Obama getting his ass kicked in West Virginia is he, that when someone dared mention how easily Obama fit in playing pool with them did this pea brained idiot discount that comment by saying " ..only people with money play pool."

What a studid and dumbass media hack.

Nationalism is not terrorism. And an adversary is not an enemy.

Chris Matthews

tonight covering the WV election with Keith, Chris was ecstatic blubbering about when Hillary gave her victory speech. He said "She was WONDERFUL!!!!" He had a puss on him that looked like he had gotten a great big piece of chocolate cake with ice cream on top & even a cherry!!! Made me want to puke. It reminded me of when Chris was so awestruck with Bush when he did his "Mission Accomplished" all dressed up in his well padded flight suit & ornaments. Chris was jumping up & down in his chair talking about Bush's "swagger". Disgusting!!! Please MSNBC replace him with a thinking man or woman, not one that gushes and gibbers like an easily impressed child. As Forrest Gump's mother used to say, "Stupid is as stupid does"...as Matthews does. Maybe he could try his talents at something else, like maybe ping-pong, or something he might be good at.

Haha

I had not heard that. That's funny. That guy has obviously not spent much time in a pool hall, or a bar for that matter. Shit, you can get an entire pool table and everything else you need from Craigs List for a few hundred dollars. That's what's great about pool tables. Too many of them around and too heavy to ship, so Ebay is out.