Dr. J.'s 'He Really Said That': Huckabee: The Ten Commandments form the basis of most of our laws.
On December 24, 2007, Ed Brayton posted the following quote from the "oh so genial, oh so nice, oh so down-to-earth" Mike Huckabee: "The Ten Commandments form the basis of most of our laws and therefore, you know if you look through them does anybody find anything there that would be all that objectionable?"
Funny, but I thought that the bases of all of laws are the U.S. Constitution and those of the 50 states. Brayton pointed out that most of the Ten Commandments would be unconstitutional and the rest are really matters of personal morals and principles. But let's say that Gov. Huckabee became President and would somehow be able to put them, let's say, co-equal with the Constitution. Before we could even get to their Constitutionality, there are a series of practical questions to raise.
One would have to ask exactly which Ten are we talking about? Those in a particular English translation of a particular Latin translation of a particular Greek translation of a particular Hebrew translation of an original Aramaic text, known as the King James Version? There is an extensive set of variations of the Ten, depending upon which language one uses. That question would have to be settled first. But let's say that somehow it would be, so let's go on to the particulars, given the translation supplied.
1. Thou shall have no other Gods before me. Which "one God" are we talking about? The Jewish version (after all, "he was the original," so we are told). Or is it the Catholic version or perhaps one of a variety of Protestant versions, or even the Mormon version? Then, what does the word "before" mean? Is this one talking about others? Oh my.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. How do we define "graven"? Sculpture, painting, photo, computer image? Are all prohibited, or only some? What happens from the fifth generation on? And what is meant by "iniquity?" Apparently this God is jealous in nature. But I thought that that was one of the Seven Deadly Sins. Oh my.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. What name is that, and how is "in vain" defined?
4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. What, exactly, does "keep it holy" mean? Further, right now there are at least two days of the week defined as "the Sabbath" and a wide variety of approaches to recognizing it, whichever one it is, as special.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother. How exactly are they to be honored? Gifts, speeches, flowers? And how frequently? What would count and who would do the counting?
6. Thou shalt not kill. Uh oh! There goes war, self-defense, the death penalty, and, since it doesn't say "who," possibly hunting and the use of animals for food.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Given the commonality of the practice, just how would the Gov. propose to control it, much less punish it?
8. Thou shalt not steal. Just how is "stealing" to be defined? Does it include theft of elections, and stealing by the awarding of no-bid contracts to Presidential/Vice Presidential cronies, or let's say, tax cuts for the rich that steal from everyone else's future?
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Does lying one's nation into war count? And if its intention is not quite that grand, what is the definition of "neighbour" anyway? Next door, across the street, down the block, around the world in this increasingly so-called "globalized" economy??
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. There's that troublesome definition of neighbour again. But before getting into any details, just how is "covet" to be defined and what are the proposed penalties for any violations?
Since we would presume the Gov. would not be so bold as to propose substituting The Ten for the Constitution en masse (at least not right away), I suppose that it would be up to the Supreme Court to sort things out. As for what, as presently constituted, it might do, we only have to notice that there are currently five seats held by Catholics who, one might presume, have similar ideas about how to answer all those tough questions. Yes indeed, this next election is really important, for more than one real reason.
Steven Jonas, MD, MPH is a Professor of Preventive Medicine at Stony Brook University (NY), a weekly Contributing Author for the Web zine The Political Junkies.net; a Special Contributing Editor for Cyrano's Journal Online; and an invited contributor to the Web log The Daily Scare.
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This is nothing compared to Huck's recond as gov.
Look, Mike Huckabee's moronic statement about the 10 Commandments was just calculated to pander to his core constituency, poorly educated, nearly illiterate fundamentalist Christians. It's a stupid statement and Constitutionally untenable. So what?
Let's start looking a Huckabee's record as Arkansas governor. Of how he raised taxes on the working poor and middle class through a series of increases in sales taxes and user fees.
What about the Huckster's $5.25 a day nursing home bed tax? It was either that or increase the cigarette tax. So after a trip to the woodshed from tobacco lobbyists grandma gets to bail out Arkansas's Medicare program.
Or how about Preacher Mike cleaning out the Arkansas governor's office emergency fund to destory all the computer hard drives in his office before turning over the governorship to Democrat Mike Beebe?
All of this stuff is way more egregious and indicative of the guy's character, or lack thereof, than the fundy canard that all U.S. laws are based on the 10 Commandment.
Yes, there is at least one commandment that is objectionable
"If you look through them does anybody find anything there that would be all that objectionable?"
As one who had a very difficult father, who at times at least bordered on being abusive, especially emotionally and psychologically (and sometimes physically), I would say that the answer to Huckabee's question is a very definite resounding YES.
I very strongly think and feel that the commandment to unconditionally honor one's father and mother is very objectionable, and actually wrong. The commandment, in the biblical text, makes no exceptions if one's parents are or were abusive or neglectful, or if one has been mistreated by one's parents.
My dad sometimes treated an honest mistake or an honest forgetting of something like it was a serious crime or a heinous sin. He would decide in Godlike fashion that I needed to be treated or or talked to in a certain manner "for my own good".
I used to be a Christian when I was a younger man, and was serious about the faith for a period of a little over 15 years. One of the main reasons I am no longer a Christian was my realization, a little over a year after my dad died (over 20 years ago now), that much of my dad's behavior had actually been abusive and very disrespectful to me. I.e. it was not just something wrong (or sinful) with me that I had the problems I had with my dad. And along with that realization came the realization that the Christian faith, and my supposedly having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, had been of no help to me in enabling me to deal with my dad the way I wished I had been able to. Certain passages in the Bible, most notably the commandment to honor one's parents, had aggravated the problem.
I consider the Bible to be fallible just like anything else that has ever been written. And I think the commandment to unconditionally honor one's father and mother is just plain wrong. If anything, there should be a commandment to treat one's children with respect and dignity, that they may treat others with respect and dignity.
Coveting
I hate it when my neighbors covet my slaves. Get you own god damn it. Oops I just broke number 3.
Maybe Two Could Pass Muster
At most only two of the 10 could by any stretch be applicable to law: 6 and 8. Killing and stealing: if defined as murder and robbery. But stealing an election deserves the death penalty. Coveting is certainly a no-go since it is purely a thought crime, ie wishing or being jealous: and totally invisible to detection even by Sherlock Holmes. But I think on Huckabee's part, this was completely wishful thinking. Apparently he hadn't seen the first episode of West Wing which had a great disagreement over which was the first commandment, settled by Bartlett booming in with, "I am the Lord thy God - and get your fat asses out of my White House"
Or maybe the Huck has more in common with the congressman interviewed on Colbert, who wanted the 10 commandments posted, but couldn't remember any of them! Unfortunately, this is what happens when faith is blind and unexamined - anybody even a scriptwriter and especially a smart doc can shoot it full of holes. Great job, Dr Jonas!
No American would really want to live under Biblical law
if they really knew what that meant.
(Actually, we Jews have 613 commandments of which the well-known ten are a prominent subset.)
Keep the Sabbath? We tried that, they were called Blue Laws they are gone completely in most places and very weak in others. Also, in the Bible, days begin at sunset, not at midnight, so that would complicate the timing of Sabbath beyond the Christian Sunday, Jewish Friday night/Saturday and Muslim Friday.
Honor your parents? People would like it if they were legally forced to become financially responsible to care for their aging parents when they can't be self-sufficient anymore? How would the burden be divided among the children? Step-children?
Adultery? That is any sex outside of a marriage, so not only does that include extra-marital sex, but also any non-marital or pre-marital activity. So, how many of you have had sex ONLY with your spouse and ONLY after you were married?
Of course, the one that is most out of sync with American culture is the coveting one. Our whole consumer economy is based on covetousness. So many shows and commercials display lifestyles and possessions so that you will want them, even need them. This will make you work hard and not cause trouble so you can earn the money to have these things. Without coveting, our economy collapses.
Also, I've never seen anywhere in the Bible where democracy is even hinted at as a form of human government. There were monarchies and times of rule under judges, but I don't recall any version of popular elections or even representative government.
Finally, biblical law does not confer any rights, only obligations. When Thomas Jefferson said that men are "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights," he was reflecting the thinking of the Enlightenment and not any traditional biblical concept. So, if you are a defendant in a court, you have no rights, but the judges are obliged to be fair to you (oh, yeah, no juries either -- that's another non-biblical idea we Americans cherish!)
So, if you are still not convinced that making America a theocracy is not a good idea, here's a plan: start with one of the 613 commandments that didn't make the top ten list -- love your neighbor as yourself -- even though Jesus thought it was pretty important, and when we as a nation get really good at that one, let's add another!