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Dick Cheney Inc. Micromanaged and Orchestrated Torture Interrogations

BUZZFLASH EDITOR'S BLOG

by Mark Karlin

Editor and Publisher

April 11, 2008

We’ve been so worn down and numbed by more than seven years of outrageous and extremist Bush Administration behavior that revelations of the worst excesses now pass us by like distant storm clouds.

The recent Iraq hearings in which a General, who was handpicked to reflect the Bush-Cheney obsession with Iraq and Iran, read from the same script we have heard for years and failed to rouse but passing, dazed interest. It was like the movie "Groundhog Day" in which events are doomed to keep repeating themselves. (The basic context of Bush and Cheney having purged all the top Pentagon brass who disagreed with them, including most recently Admiral Fallon (the head of CENTCOM and Petraeus’s superior), went virtually unnoticed.)

But the revelation that Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Tenet, Ashcroft and Powell personally orchestrated torture interrogations from a room in the White House once again shocks us into acknowledging the macabre and horrifying deviant behavior of this administration.

Dan Froomkin of the Washington Post recounts an ABC News report,

Top Bush aides, including Vice President Cheney, micromanaged the torture of terrorist suspects from the White House basement, according to an ABC News report aired last night.

Discussions were so detailed, ABC's sources said, that some interrogation sessions were virtually choreographed by a White House advisory group. In addition to Cheney, the group included then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, then-defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, then-secretary of state Colin Powell, then-CIA director George Tenet and then-attorney general John Ashcroft.

At least one member of the club had some qualms. ABC reports that Ashcroft "was troubled by the discussions. He agreed with the general policy decision to allow aggressive tactics and had repeatedly advised that they were legal. But he argued that senior White House advisers should not be involved in the grim details of interrogations, sources said.

"According to a top official, Ashcroft asked aloud after one meeting: 'Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly."

If you recall, Ashcroft was the one who resisted, from his hospital bed, a White House effort to strong arm him into signing off on actions that he deemed unConstitutional. When you have John Ashcroft as a conscientious objector, you know that Cheney Inc. has crossed the line into uber illegal activity.

But there is something here that is not just in violation of our Constitution. It passes into the realm of the sadistic to have our senior government officials spending their time (and remember that they are our employees) as torture planners. It’s not only revolting beyond words, but can anyone claim that they have any expertise in this area? We don’t mean to be crass, but we are talking about the most senior members of the administration personally overseeing each step of the torture process.

As Froomkin’s article quotes ABC News, "At one meeting in the summer of 2003 -- attended by Vice President Cheney, among others -- Tenet made an elaborate presentation for approval to combine several different techniques during interrogations, instead of using one method at a time, according to a highly placed administration source."

You can bet your bottom dollar that Bush was also somehow involved in this. Remember that there have been reports that Bush personally asked to watch the infamous videotapes of one or two of the torture sessions. After all, this was a guy who got a thrill out of executing more people than any governor in modern times when he was the top guy in Texas. There’s a sadistic vein in George W. Bush that runs a mile wide and a mile deep.

As progressives, we are passionately hashing out who will be the Democratic nominee, with a percentage of each candidate so attached to their choice that they claim that they will vote for McCain if their candidate doesn’t get the Democratic nomination.

Take a moment and fully absorb the horrifying revelations detailed above. When the people at the top of a national government personally plan torture interrogations, the fish has rotted fully from the inside out. This is the type of unsanctionable behavior that would no doubt continue in a pro-war McCain administration.

For those of you who would vote for McCain over either Obama or Clinton, because of your current passion for either candidate, think about that and whether your conscience could live with it.

It is eminently obvious to our readers where we have stood -- and continue to stand -- on the campaign tactics of the Clinton camp, but we made it clear a long time ago that we will fully support the Democratic nominee. Period.

Whatever serious flaws the Clinton campaign has, they pale by comparison to the continuation of a third Bush term via the ascension to the presidency of John McCain.

The latest revelation about the torture planning sessions in the Bush White House just reconfirm that.

Like the vast majority of our readers, we would like to see the principals of the Bush Administration in jail for war crimes. Given the record of Congress – and the direction of the Obama and Clinton campaigns – we believe that the Democrats will once again make the mistake, as Bill Clinton did, of letting Republican crimes go unpunished in the name of "national unity."

But the least we can do is work together to ensure that the Democrats control the White House, no matter who is the nominee.

We’ll continue to express our concerns about the primary contest, but the repulsive actions under the current Republican leadership reconfirm our commitment to supporting the Democratic candidate for President, whichever candidate that might be.

Whatever flaws he or she may have pale by comparison to the nightmare of the last few years.

We need to return America to civilized standards of international behavior, justice and democracy.

BUZZFLASH EDITOR'S BLOG

BuzzFlash Note: For the record, Ms. Rice chaired these "meetings" in her former role as National Security Advisor. V.P material? We don't think so.

 

 

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Cheney as torturer- Bush as co-conspirator

We hanged the Japanese for water boarding U.S. solders during WWII.What should we do with these war criminals? If we let them get away with this then we are no better then they who do this in our name.We have become what we claim to despise,torturers,war criminals and accomplices to these crimes against humanity.This doesn't even begin to deal with what these conscienceless fiends have done to us,to our constitution and our way of life.

Dems need to win in 2008

...reconfirm our commitment to supporting the Democratic candidate for President, whichever candidate that might be. -------------------

I agree with this editorial.

I have had some doubts in my own mind about this upcoming election and my vote because I so hate seeing the bickering among Dem voters and the Dem candidates. And, I believe no candidate will have an error-free ride in the White House since the president, too, is human.

But this isssue of torture is extremely upsetting to me as well, and it does, indeed, make me reaffirm my own committment to voting Dem this November -- whomever that Dem may be.

I will hope for the best, but the best is not possible when torture becomes acceptable conduct. It is upsetting, even though I try to believe our country always wants to do the right thing. I will even go out on the longest possible limb here and say this: perhaps in his heart, our current president, GW Bush, still believes he is doing the right thing.

However, in my own heart, I do believe this: when election day comes this November, it is time for a change.

[PS And, voting for a beer heiress as first lady (McCain's wife) does not excite me at all.]

Bush and Cheney will not be

Bush and Cheney will not be impeached and they will suffer no repercussions after leaving office because they are Americans leading their country in a time of so-called "war". Simply put, American ultra-patriotism will save them.

Someone get the shovel.

One more lump of elephant dung for the pile. When piled so high and deep, they all look the same.

I should expect something to come of this exactly why?

I mean, it’s not as if the elephant in the room hasn’t crapped on the floor before.

Remember, in order to ignore the elephant in the room, one must also ignore it’s excrement.

Impeachment Won't Happen

With the currently compromised Congress, it just won't happen.

Our shot for justice will be if at Barack Obama's inauguration he orders the Secret Service, now under his direction, to order the immediate arrest of all members of the Bush Administration arrested and deported to the Hague for War Crimes trials.

By doing this, he will show the rest of the world that the US will not allow these heinous crimes to go unpunished.

Although they got Congress to give them a get out of jail free card, that card is good only in the US. Their crimes are crimes against the world and are punishable in world court, not the US in-Justice Department.

The Old Hippy

torture

I agree with your line of thinking.

Bush Administration Criminals

Pelosi has said from the beginning of her tenure as speaker of the house, that impeachment is off the table. I always thought that the Republicans had info to use against her. I figured it would be some kind of sex scandal or financial impropriety! It never occoured to me that she was aware of the torture planning by the administration! That explains a lot! She should be removed as house speaker and indicted, tried, convicted, and sentenced to prison along with the Bush administration criminals! Of course Bush should be impeached! He and his entire administration are guilty of TREASON and WAR CRIMES! Upon conviction of these charges, he, and his entire administration should be imprisoned while awaiting execution! This is the only course of action which will send a message to future administrations who think they can pursue empire without consequences! It's time for the citizens of this country to take steps to insure that politicians understand who they work for!

You don't kill a snake by

You don't kill a snake by stomping on its tail. All legal guns should be aimed at George W. Bush, not his henchmen. Until someone from this untouchable, corrupt crime family is brought down nothing will change. Over four generations these people have become the ruling dynasty of political and economic corruption in America. Not one of them has ever been brought to justice, and George W. Bush is the most malignant, psychopathic spawn of the entire brood line. The survival of the republic, perhaps the nation and possibly the planet depends on bringing him before the bar of justice and then putting him away for a very long time. He should be impeached, convicted and sent before an international war crimes tribunal. If he falls, the family, its evil works and all of its minions fall with him. Semper Fi.

Why am I not surprised that

Why am I not surprised that CNN, the Washington Post and New York Times have this major news story completely buried? If there was any more evidence necessary to convict the American mainstream media of their complicity in enabling and covering up the war crimes of this "administration", this would be it. Cheney could murder someone in cold blood inside the Oval Office, and all of the major American news organizations would cover his back. Disgusting. They should all be deeply ashamed of themselves, but it's just par for the course isn't it? And now it's all starting to come out in the wash. THIS is why Powell, Ashcroft and Tenet have been lying very low since their departure. They knew what was coming. Power corrupts absolute. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Absolutely they should be tried as war criminals.

War crimes, plain and simple

As I've been saying for years now: Bush and Cheney are war criminals who should be in prison awaiting execution for war crimes, treason, murder, torture, violations of the U. S. Constitution and violations of International Law.

Congress is compromised

I've read that certain members of Congress, including Nancy Pelosi, were briefed about the torture and even saw the tapes and did nothing. Thus they would be liable, and that could be why impeachment is off the table. And at the very least, if McCain is "elected" it will probably be so that he can pardon anyone who is involved in these high crimes. The Republican crime syndicate always have an exit strategy for themselves. http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/12/09/democrats/

Degenerate, Perverted, Republican Priorites

They left New Orleans in the hands of a Horse Show Promoter and Micromanaged Torture

Impeachment

Impeachment is not enough. Trials need to follow in Cuba for Gitmo, in Iraq for Abu Ghraib, in Afghanistan for what happened there, and so on. The idea that US citizens all have "diplomatic immunity" for crimes committed overseas is preposterous, as a matter of law, as a matter of morals, and as a matter of diplomacy.

No justice, no recovery

I understand the reason BuzzFlash is talking about the importance of supporting the ultimate Democratic candidate. But Dr. Wolman is right that the issue concerning the heinous violations of our laws and treaties is that justice must be done. Impeachment must go forward. Otherwise, no matter who becomes president, Americans will never be safe again. It must be clearly shown what laws have been violated. Leaving a history of illegal presidential and administration decisions and actions based on the fraud of the unitary presidency unchallenged will put us in a permanent legal limbo. It will leave the way open to continued disputes over our basic constitutional law that destroy any possibility of redeeming democratic processes. Pat Williams

right argument, wrong conclusion

Carol Wolman, MD Yes, it's horrifying that the top government officials spend their time, on the taxpayer's dime, sadistically planning torture. But the conclusion is not- vote for either Democrat. The conclusion is- stop being distracted by the election media circus, and IMPEACH THE BASTARDS, before it's too late. DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT! Peace, Carol Wolman, MD Green Candidate for Congress, CA District 1 www.carolwolmanforcongress.com Coordinator, nbc http://newbroomcoalition.org Cochair, Impeach Bush-Cheney http://www.opednews.com/author/author20.html http://www.paracove.com/HighCrimes.html

You got that right!

Carol is right, of course, but there is another side to the inaction of Congress. I do believe they are scared s***less about what the madmen of BushCo will actually do when their backs are up against the wall. As I said in response to PMCarpenter's blog this AM, BushCo is holding our troops hostage, actually our whole nation hostage with his threats and plans for an attack on Iran. We should have impeached him and Cheney immeadiately following the 2006 elections, while we still had public opinion and momentum riled up against the Repugs. The other thing not to lose sight of is that it is not just a change in the POTUS and VEEP that our nation needs to repair itself, but all the positions in the exewcutive branch: all of the Cabinet level positions who choose those posts such as head of the FAA, FDA etc (with congressional confirmation), and of course a new ATTORNEY GENERAL. Wouldn't John Edwards be wonderful in that position?!?