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What Will the Supreme Court Decide on Gun Control?

The Supreme Court will hear a case tomorrow about gun rights that could overturn the ability for states and cities to regulate firearms. That would require a major policy change, but the Supreme Court isn't known for taking that kind of activist stance, right? So what do you think will come of this case and whatever legislation it spawns about gun control into the future? Please add your comments to the discussion below!




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Gun Control or Citizen Control?

J.Ruhnke

   The actual question to be asked is, "Does a government have the right to prohibit people from protecting themselves?" Thousands of street murders occur every year in America. Defenseless victims who relied on police protection are merely given a free ride to the county morgue by those "protectors".

   I knew a man who had been stopped by the police for a traffic violation. On searching his car, the officer found a loaded handgun in the glove box. The officer asked the man why he was carrying a gun. The man expained that he was on his way to pick up a date in a very crime-ridden area and answered the officers' question with a question of his own, "Would you go into the projects (a high-rise slum) without a gun?" The officer answered honestly, "No way." With that the officer returned the gun and wished the motorist a good evening.

   That is a true story that quickly illustrates the point. A citizen who has no right to protect himself is a victim waiting for a crime.

The Roberts' Court...

will rule in favor of whatever benefits the firearms manufacturers.

ET Spoon

The Apache

The Apache had guns but look what the U.S. Calvery did to those people they won one battle, then they had to face the Gattling Gun and the Hinery Repeter. Game over. Now they would turn the Apache Helocopeter loose on you and other things you have never heard of.

Gun Control

komatose writes:

If guns actually lead to safety and a  secure society, then America would be virtually crime free, CORRECT? It isn't. Indeed, we lead the world in violence and murder. And, to suggest that citizens could actually take up arms against its government is but a Quixotic delusion. The reality is that little, mindless, irresponsible people morp quicklly in to monsters with enormous power to kill and maim when they are armed. Regulations couldnt be too strict in my opinon...and YES, I have both rifles and pistols in my home.

Gun Control?

Thomas Jefferson wrote:

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.

No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

 

 

ah, well Jefferson said a lot of stuff

As most tea baggers and NRA members, are wont to do, the above quotation of Thomas Jefferson's is twisted, perverted and taken out of context.

The quotation, No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms [within his own lands]"  is taken from the draft of the Virginia Constitution of 1776 and never adopted.

And, anyway, Jefferson, an Enlightenment Classicist,  envisioned the kind of citizen militia utilized by the ancient Greeks and Republican Romans for defense of the polis or patria, the closest modern equivalent being the modern Swiss army.

"The Greeks and Romans had no standing armies, yet they defended themselves. The Greeks by their laws, and the Romans by the spirit of their people, took care to put into the hands of their rulers no such engine of oppression as a standing army. Their system was to make every man a soldier and oblige him to repair to the standard of his country whenever that was reared. This made them invincible; and the same remedy will make us so." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Cooper, 1814. ME 14:184

I really do not think Thomas Jefferson would approve of the, "Let's put on our cammies, pop off a few rounds and drink some beer," version of gun ownership.   

ET Spoon

Speak Up!

Write louder, I can almost hear you.

Gun Control

Be very careful of the things we wish for. In an ideal world we would have no use for guns. I an ideal world.

But Jews who were herded into ghettos and gas ovens sure could have used some fire arms. Just like innocent Cambodians during Pol Pot's regime.

When the government lackeys have made sure no one can protect themselves against multi-national banks who are the true rulers and paymasters of our so-called representatives, then no one can stop them from collecting debt through cheap or even forced labor. It has worked for them in the past. It is so much easier for them now.

I know this may seem a strange response from one believes in gun control, but beware of those who will twist that sentiment for "people control".

The "armed Jews" is a specious argument

Look, logically had Europe's Jewish population risen up enmass in armed revolt against the Germans the consequences would have been the same. The Holocaust would not have been prevented. In fact German Einsatzgruppen, SS paramilitay death-squads, were often aided and abetted by Christian Poles, Lithuanians, Latvians, Russians and so on in exterminating their Jewish neighbors. Sorry.   

ET Spoon

Gun Owner Control

My issues with unlimited gun possession is that those who deem them most important to have loaded within reach are the ones whose intellect doesn't impress me in the slightest.

That having been said, I note your reasoning for not banning guns. I agree with them, to a point. But do you really think that your Smith & Wesson .40 is going to do anything about the banks? Get real! There will be little use of hand guns in the bragged about revolution used as the excuse to have no limits on gun possession. If you want a clue about what you are up against, there are lots of videos on YouTube showing what an Apache can do - in the dark - from a range of two miles. You don't stand a chance against that.

There has to be a logical balance, or else why would Switzerland now require that their militia keep their automatic national defense weapons at the arsenal and not at home? (They also have national health care and much better controls on their banks!)

You Know What They Will Do

The will find in favor of radical gun abuse just because they will deem any government regulation of gun ownership or use to be unconstitutional.

scotus on gun control

It has a lot more to do with than gun control. This is a way to circumvent Social security, Medicare and any kind of Health care reform.

If you want to live like a republican, Vote Democrat