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The Green They Steal, The Greed They Wear...a St. Patrick's Day Lament
by Michael Moore
Wednesday, March 17th, 2010
Friends,
It was amazing. Every story on the front page of Monday's New York Times told the story of the Age of Greed during which a system known as capitalism is slowly, but surely, killing us:
Insurance company greed: "Millions Spent to Sway Democrats on Health Care"
War profiteers: "Contractors Tied to Effort to Track and Kill Militants"
There's no profit in repairing our infrastructure: "Repair Costs Daunting as Water Lines Crumble"
China, the bank: "China Uses Rules on Global Trade to Its Advantage"
You mean NAFTA didn't improve life in Mexico: "Two Drug Slayings in Mexico Rock US Consulate"
What happens when Big Food profits from hurting kids: "Forget Goofing Around: Recess Has New Boss"
There's now a daily parade of news like this -- well, not really "news," more like the media division of large corporations shoving your face into the dirt that is your life. You already know the schools are a disaster and the war is a boon for the Halliburtons and a bust for you. You don't need a newspaper to tell you the roads and electrical lines and the local sewage plant is in miserable disrepair.
And by now you've figured out that you don't really have any say in this, that what we call the "democratic process" is mostly a sham, pretty words that get repeated in the hopes we will all still fall for it. But the fix is in and we don't fall for it anymore. Admit it: Wall Street owns "our" Congress lock, stock and big barrel o' campaign cash. You want a say in this? Well, I don't see you on the Forbes 400, so shut the f@*& up and go fetch me another bottle of bubbly.
Within days, the House of Representatives will vote to pass the Senate health care "reform" bill. This bill is a joke. It has NOTHING to do with "health care reform." It has EVERYTHING to do with lining the pockets of the health insurance industry. It forces, by law, every American who isn't old or destitute to buy health insurance if their boss doesn't provide it. What company wouldn't love the government forcing the public to buy that company's product?! Imagine a bill that ordered every citizen to buy the extended warranty on all their appliances? Imagine a law that made it illegal not to own an iPhone? Or how 'bout I get a law passed that makes it compulsory for every American to go see my next movie? Woo-hoo! Who wouldn't love a sweet set-up like this windfall?
Well, the insurance companies -- get this -- don't like the Democrats' bill! That alone should be reason enough to vote for it.
Now, you would think these thieves would love this bill -- but they are actually fighting it. Why? Because it doesn't give them ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of the what they want. It only gives them... 90%! YOU SEE, pure greed demands all or nothing.
The insurance industry hates this bill because it puts a few minor restrictions on them. Six months after its passage they won't be able to deny children coverage if they have a pre-existing condition. How awful! Government interference! SOCIALISM!
But, hey, they'll still be able to deny these children's parents coverage until 2014! So if a parent gets sick and dies in the next four years, I'm sure someone will step in and raise these already-insured orphans.
And how big will the fines be if the insurance companies do deny someone coverage for having a pre-existing condition? Are you sitting down? A hundred dollars a day! That's it! So if you're the insurance company, and Judy is a customer of yours, and Judy needs an operation that will cost $100,000, what do you do? You take the fine! Let's say Judy lives another year after you've sentenced her to death, your $100-a-day fine will only cost you $36,500! That's a savings of $63,500! And trust me, my friends, that's EXACTLY what's going to happen.
There are some good things in this bill. Parents will be able to keep their children on their policy until the kids turn 26. A few things like that. So, yes, pass that.
But don't insult me and 300 million Americans by calling this "health care reform." At least you've stopped calling it "universal health care." We will not have universal health care or anything close to it. I wish the president and the Democratic leadership would just stand up and say, "We're sorry, America. We didn't get the job done you sent us here to do. We're weak and scared and unable to communicate the simplest of messages to the American people. Therefore, our bill will guarantee that 12 million of you will still have NO health insurance. And that's because we have decided to leave the greedy, private insurance industry in charge of our system. Forgive us for this and for continuing to allow profit to be the determining factor as to whether a patient gets the help she or he needs."
Please, Democrats -- just say that -- then pass this poor excuse of a bill. Pass it because, if President Obama takes a fall on this one, I don't know if he'll be able to get back up. And then NOTHING will get done. We can't have that. (And thank you Dennis Kucinich for hanging in there right up to the end and being the only one out of the 435 members to speak the awful truth.)
On the front page of yesterday's New York Times, the dateline was, sadly, once again, "Flint, Michigan." The story was about how doctors are no longer accepting Medicaid patients. Which means tens of thousands of poor can no longer go to the doctor. Last year, the State of Michigan also prohibited doctors from accepting Medicaid patients who had anything wrong with their vision, their hearing, their feet or their teeth. In a 16-county area northwest of Flint, there will soon be not one single hospital that will allow you to give birth there if you're on Medicaid. The official unemployment rate in Flint is 27% (unofficially, closer to 40%).
This is an American tragedy. And, as I've warned you for years, this tsunami is heading your way -- if it's not there already.
I've just turned on my new iPhone and it informs me that it has "apps" it would like to suggest I buy. One is called "Scanner." It will allow me to listen in on police scanners anywhere across the country. I buy the app. I see that the Flint police scanner is part of this. I turn it on out of curiosity. And this is what I hear, at one in the morning: A woman is being beaten by her husband... A home invasion is taking place ("16-year-old black male, wearing a white skull cap")... A child has been missing since noon today... Another woman is being beaten by her boyfriend... A diabetic, obese man is having trouble breathing and needs to be rushed to the hospital (there will be three more of these obese diabetics in the hours to come; the entire town is ill)... One more woman calling, screaming for help, "officers urged to use caution..."
...And on and on and on. This is what I have listened to before going to bed. I am filled with despair and helplessness as I hear my former neighbors crying out for help. I hate it. I have to turn it off. I start to cry. Thank you, iPhone. Thank you, Democrats. I'll sleep better knowing that you're looking out for all of us.
Bastards.
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com
P.S. I'll continue my jihad today on Dylan Ratigan (MSNBC, 4pm ET) and, for the first time together in the same studio since our, um, 2007 debate, I'll join Wolf Blitzer live in his CNN Studio (5-8pm, ET). I'll also be on live for the entire 11am hour this morning on the wonderful Diane Rehm Show on NPR. You can listen live online here.
The rest of the day I'll spend wandering the halls of Congress with my shillelagh and shamrocks, doing my best impersonation of St. Patrick as I try to drive the snakes out of Capitol Hill. Wish me luck...
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don't listen to him, alan
Kevin has been posting on here for years, always in lockstep with the neocons. Far-right wingnuts like Kevin will tell any lie, misrepresent anything for the sake of argument. He's not a democrat, not a liberal, not a progressive, he's a Karl Rove acolyte and always has been. There's never been a better time to support independent parties and never a better reason than two corrupt major parties who only work together when they are threatened by a truly grass-roots populist uprising. So please Alan, keep up the fight and don't be distracted by this lying fraud.
Who is the liar and fraud? Why it's you, of course, not I
Your ridiculous attempt to smear me just backfired on yourself! If you check any of my comments, it will be apparent to all that I am mostly in agreement with Progressive Democrats and not with the Neocons as you delusionally claim.
Your lies and accusations without any evidence is proof of just how much of a liar you truly are. In fact, it could be argued that it is you who is the Neocon, since you use the same Swiftboat smear tactics that they use.
You further discredit yourself by attacking me, the messenger, instead of logically addressing my comments, the messages, which stand independent of me.
Finally, you are also a coward for hiding behind a pseudonym. It is obvious that you are ashamed to put your real name behind your lying words.
The green party
does NOT GET any corporate money thrown at it anyway. Why waste money on a handful of
"only local" greens who have been elected. Who needs to buy 1 vote on the city council of otumwa iowa anyway?
The greens are as irelevant as the tea gaggers and ralph nader.
Huh?
So your argument is that you will only support the corrupt politicians who rape us, because decent non-rapist people are "irrelevant"?
I had thought of asking if you have any hobbies or interests other being raped by corrupt politicians, but then I realized that there are some things that decent people are better off not knowing.
Spare Us Your Straw Man Stupidity
He never said what you claimed, nor did he imply it.
Are you as deluded as Alan8? It certainly seems that way.
Hollow "victory"
Idiots like kichigai_usagi are too dumb to know the difference between an election and a horse race.
They think they "won" when the candidate they voted for wins, then denies them health care, gives their tax dollars to corporations, helps corporations export their job to a low-wage country, eliminates their consititutional rights, and allows corporations to degrade their quality of life for corporate profits.
We invite people to take the pledge of independence from the corrupt parties that are working against us: http://www.peaceteam.net/action/pnum1040.php
The text:
The Pledge Of Independence
Therefore, we the people of the newly Independent United States of America do solemnly declare that never again will we cast our votes in any election for any candidate associated with either of those two parties, but will instead support with our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor, ONLY independent candidates who have proven their worthiness over a lifetime of public policy activism on behalf of their fellow citizens.
Hollow "Green (Who?) Party"
You still don't get it.
It's not the party.
It's not the politician.
It's the system that needs to be changed. Once that happens, then the parties and politicans will also change.
Pre-election campaign promises, even those promises from the Green (who?) Party are worth nothing!
We will continue to have the same problems in Washington, no matter who is elected and no matter which party is in the majority, until we change the system and start to hold our elected representatives accountable every day of the year and not just at election time.
Now go fight those windmills!
You can't change the system!
The corporate parties aren't going to change the system they've worked so hard to build, and which gives them such control over our former democracy.
You're delusional if you think you can change this without replacing the corrupt parties. Talk about fighting windmills...
You are the definition of madness
You think that repeating the same actions (voting the corrupt bums out and installing new bums) will yield different results.
It is the system itself that causes the corruption. Legalized bribery on K Street, remember?
Replace the dysfunctional system with one that ends legalized bribery and one that actually holds our elected representatives accountable 24/7/365, and the corruption automatically goes away.
But if we did that, the Democrats and Republicans would start making laws that benefited we the people over the upper 1% plutocracy, and the Green (Who?) Party would fade even further into obscurity.
Is that why you continue to support a corrupt system over real change?
For shame! Rooting for failure to advance your political agenda is the same strategy used by the Republican Party. That makes you just as corrupt as any of them.
Welcome to politics, you sellout!
You're an idiot
Replacing the corrupt parties with the Green Party is not the "same actions". You can't see the difference between a party on the take and one that isn't. That's idiotic.
You still maintain the fantasy you can change the campaign-finance system. That's idiotic.
You're an idiot.
That's your argument? What about addressing the message?
Why do you think it is possible to elect a majority of Greens into both houses of Congress where no Green now sits because they are wildly unpopular with 99% of the voters, but find it impossibe to change a system that most everyone is fed up with because they know the system corrupts the politicians and not the other way around?
There is already a grass roots effort to pass a constitutional amendment that will end corporate personhood and campaign finance contributions from all non-human entites, which will change the political system. I see no grass roots efforts to elect Greens into Congress.
Still waiting for a reasonable answer. (Not really considering your past avoidance and illogical responses.)
Nor have you shown any proof that any member of the Green (Who?) Party is above the temptation of K Street lobbyists, other than implying that we should trust them at their word that they will resist millions of dollars of legalized bribe money once in office. HA!
Admit it, instead of addressing the issues, your only arguments now are to deny they exist, use illogical arguments and attack me personally, which means you lose!
Thanks for that!
Michael,
Thanks for sharing with us another honest, truthful piece of, "let me tell you what I really think!"
Once your finished trying to drive the snakes out of Capital Hill, we have a "bastard" Carpy snake at Buzzflash that you can drive out too!
WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER, KEVIN...
Kevin, we're still waiting for you to answer the question about your precious Democrats:
The Democrats have:
1. Continued Bush's wars
2. Continued Bush's bank bailouts
3. Continued to protect the torturers
4. Continued the Republican opposition to single-payer and public option health care
5. Continued to tap our phones and record our emails.
6. Continued corporate trade agreements like NAFTA that export US jobs to low-wage countries.
7. Continued the coverup of the neocons' role in staging the 9/11 attacks.
My question to you, Kevin, is: How is the Democratic Party able to force this right-wing agenda when it has progressives like Kucinich in it? We're waiting for your answer.
The Greens don't accept ANY corporate money, and any Green politican that did would be ending their career in the Green Party. You can't say that about the Democrats.
We also have hundreds of Greens who have been elected and are following Green-Party principles at the local level: http://www.feinstein.org/greenparty/electeds.html A few Greens have made it to the state level. It's only a matter of time until Greens make it to the Federal level.
Your naive suggestions for making the Democrats progressive have all been tried, and none of them work.
We're still waiting for you to get a clue, Alan8
Alan8 (Alienate),
First of all, don't talk to me like I have nothing better to do than to wait for your idiotic comments to appear. I have better things to do than argue with the insane.
Second of all, who is "we"? Besides you, I see no evidence of any credible support for the loser Green Party.
Next, your sophmoric and moronic attempt to reframe the argument is laughable. You are obviously still quite delusional to continuously blame all the problems in America on the Democratic Party. It's idiots like you who perpetuate the myth that politicans are soley to blame. When in fact the blame can be placed squarely on the fraudulent two party representational government system that turns good politicians into corporate sellouts, and squarely on we the people for allowing the fraud to continue.
You seem to think some unknown loser can do better than Democrats and Republicans simply because the Green loser has affiliated himself with the loser Green Party, as if that loser affilation is some kind of magic spell that prevents loser Green from breaking his loser campaign promises and prevents him from accepting millions of dollars in legalized bribes from K Street lobbyists.
But your story is a repeat, plagarized directly from both the Democrats and Republicans, who give us the same pledges every election cycle to bring change and end corruption, which may even be true for the incoming freshmen, that is until the K Street lobbyists get a hold of them.
The dysfunctional political system of legalized bribery wins again, and again, etc. Until this dysfuntional system is ended, all politicans are suspect, even loser politicans from your loser Green Party.
So please stop trying to sell us the Brooklyn Bridge. Please stop lying about the real cause of our dysfunctional government.
Now go fight a windmill and stop wasting our time.
YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE QUESTION, KEVIN...
...so I'll answer it for you: The Democrats are able to force a right-wing agenda because they overwhelmingly support a right-wing agenda.
The Democrats are a right-wing party, pretending to be progressive to fool liberals into voting for them. I don't blame all the problems on the Democrats, just the ones they could have prevented but didn't.
So now everyone here knows that Kevin supports a right-wing agenda.
We'll take your future blatherings with a grain of salt.
BTW, the Green Party actually STANDS for something. If a Green politician started supporting a corporate agenda, all Greens would stop voting for them. It's a self-correcting system. The Democrats can't do this because:
1. They don't stand for anything,
2. Idiots like you will continue voting for them no matter what they do.
You are a liar, again
You said, "So now everyone here knows that Kevin supports a right-wing agenda.
This, of course is a lie. My support for the progressive cause and progressives like Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich, and Alan Grayson is well documented in Buzzflash's comment sections.
Please start taking your meds.
You have no credibilty and are quite delusional.
Now everyone here knows that Kevin supports a right-wing agenda
You're desperately arguing here for a party that supports a right-wing agenda.
Therefore you support a right-wing agenda.
It's a simple as that.
Progressives support the right-wing? You are truly deluded
What is, "a (sic) simple as that", is your brain.
Claiming my support of progressive Democrats is actually support of a right-wing agenda is as delusional as it gets.
You're supporting the WHOLE Democratic Party
You're fooled by the handful of progressive Democrats. By rejecting alternatives, you're supporting the Democratic Party. The party you're supporting has a right-wing agenda, as anyone who's not an idiot can see.
Apparently you're an idiot.
You don't know who or what I support, as evidenced by your lies.
Again you are dishonestly lumping progressive Democrats in with the Blue Dogs by delusionally claiming they are all the same.
You know nothing about politics and nothing about logical, reasonable critical thinking.
Again: They are what they do
By rejecting progressive alternatives to the Democrats, you ARE supporting the WHOLE Democratic Party.
You are denying reality with the intensity of a tea partier by ignoring the right-wing agenda of the Democratic Party. You are pretending the few Democratic progressives represent the Democratic Party. In reality, they do not.
Your short attention span requires a reminder of WHAT the Democratic Party stands for:
The Democrats have:
1. Continued Bush's wars
2. Continued Bush's bank bailouts
3. Continued to protect the torturers
4. Continued the Republican opposition to single-payer and public option health care
5. Continued to tap our phones and record our emails.
6. Continued corporate trade agreements like NAFTA that export US jobs to low-wage countries.
7. Continued the coverup of the neocons' role in staging the 9/11 attacks.
You continue to ignore this reality. You're an idiot.
You are denying the reality of the corrupt system
I am not denying any of the crimes you claim were committed by the Democrats. I am denying your claim that the entire Democratic Party represents corruption. You present a simplified either/or fantasy. I also disagree with your premise that the problem can be solved by voting out corrupt bums and voting in a new set of bums (ready to be corrupted). It is the system that corrupts politicians, not the reverse.
You have yet to prove how any Green (Who?) Party member will not break campaign promises and be able to resist the tempations of millions of dollars of legalized bribe money generously pouring in from the 25,000+ K Street Lobbyists.
The momentum of the people is now moving towards changing the system, which I have proven in a previous comment. There is zero evidence of any credible grass root movement backing Green (Who?) candidates who make the same empty "change" promises broken by too many candidates of all political parties.
That is the reality of the situation.
Yes I have. You have not answered mine
You are still blaming all the problems of America on the Democratic Party, which is quite ridiculous, as I have previously proven.
You have no proof that any Green Party member, once elected to Congress, will not get caught up in the fraudulent system of K Street legalized bribery. No one can walk on water, so please stop claiming that Greens can not be corrupted with bribes. That line is as old as America.
Most politicans sell their souls on the cheap. Greens are no different and you cannot prove otherwise. Everyone is suspect until legalized bribery is ended and the voting public stop letting their elected representatives become sellouts.
Learn to read
Especially the part about a self-correcting system.
Learn to be sane
Enough said.
Vote Green!
A better reason for voting for the Green Party I've never seen!
The Democrats are corrupt and totally dependent on corporate bribes to function. What they're doing to us in health care they're ALSO doing to us in every other domain!
On international trade, food safety, civil liberties, finance, etc... they've sold us out to the corporations at every turn. Why should they change while misguided liberals continue to vote for them?
At the very least, a Green-Party vote is an excellent protest vote. It won't be misinterpreted as saying the Democrats are too liberal, like voting for the Republicans, not voting, or writing in a mythical character.
Democrats (like all politicians) love winning, so when they see "their" votes going to the Green Party, THAT gets their attention. If you continue voting for them, they'll just take your vote for granted and support corporate interests like they always do. (Note to Kevin Schmidt: Yes, we know Kucinich won't do this.)
On the positive side, your Green vote will allow Green candidates to bring up issues the corporate politicians would rather ignore, like endocrine disruptors in our canned food, or routine government recording of Americans' phone calls and emails, like a Soviet-era dictatorship. Your Green vote also lays the groundwork for taking our country back from the corrupt corporate parties in future elections.
Just 5% of the vote will get the Green Party matching Federal funds, which is significant because they don't accept ANY corporate money.
Vote Green for REAL change!
I'll never vote corporate again
45,000 die unnecessarily every year. Millions are bankrupted. The Democrat response is to use the health care crisis as an excuse to steal another trillion dollars for the health mafia from working and retired Americans.
You will remember this as you watch your friends die: Junk insurance with unaffordable deductibles and copays is not health care. It's simply a tax on the poor to benefit the rich.
Thanks!
It only takes about 1 out of 20 of us to strike a blow against these corrupt parties. After the first 5%, more will follow.
1 out of 20 won't ever happen. Stop deluding yourself
"After the first 5%"?
Please inform us when you get the first 5% of the first 5%.
Until then, the much hated LaRouch Party is still more popular than the Green Party.
You would have greater success and more fun in promoting a Green Beer Party!
The corruption is even more obvious now
We got about 3% in 2000, when far fewer people realized how corrupt the Democratic Party was.
Given the unprecedented corruption of the corporate parties, an additional 2% doesn't seem unreasonable.
3% of what ten long years ago? Your desperation is laughable!
Where are your numbers from 2008? Or 2006? Or 2004?
Must have fallen under the "Other" category along with the "Mickey Mouse" write in votes.
You Greens did beat out Mickey Mouse, didn't you?
What is truly "unreasonable" is your delusion that the Green (Who?) Party is gaining traction on a national level, or even on a state level.
Worst of all is your delusion that Greens don't lie in their campaign promises and that for some unknown reason, they cannot be corrupted with millions of dollars in K Street lobbyist bribe money.
Just for the record, how much bribe money would it take for you to sell your soul and denounce the Green Party?
My guess is ten grand (cheap).
People see the emperor has no clothes
The corruption of the corporate parties is more obvious now than it has ever been. Even more than in 2000 right after Gore had saddled us with NAFTA.
I may be wrong, but I expect a HUGE jump in independent votes.
True patriots are working to make this happen.
And they all lived happily ever after down your rabbit hole
Keep on drinking the Kool-Aid and believing that all we have to do is throw out the corrupted bums and elect new Green bums.
Again, you have yet to prove how any Green once elected to office will not accept millions of dollars in legalized bribe money from a corrupt system.
Until you do, you are avoiding the main issue. No wonder no one votes for Greens. They can't answer legitimate campaign questions.
Let's put the blame where it really belongs, on US
It's easy to point the finger at Democrats, Republicans and even the K Street lobbyists.
But when it comes down to placing the blame where it really belongs, all we have to do is look in the mirror.
If WE THE PEOPLE were not 'wee little sheeple' and actually held our representative accountable, not just at election time, but all the time, then we would not now be living in 1934 Germany about to loose all of our remaining Constitutional rights.
It's not about holding your nose and voting for the least disagreeable candidates anymore, or even voting for the single blade of grass root Green Party.
The way for us to take back our country now is through massive peacable assembly (millions), and a sustained sit-in (best way to stay peaceable) siege of the streets of Washington, D.C., surrounding the White House, Congress, the Supreme Court and the Pentagon, for however long it takes (days? weeks? months?) for our mutinous representatives to finally agree to end their treasonous relationship with the upper 1% plutocracy and their K Street lobbyist minions.
These are indeed our rights under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
St. Patrick's Day Puke Green Beer Party!!!
Alan8, is that short for Alienate?
Green who? You have to have credible and popular candidates to win elections. That's something the Green Party lacks completely. Even the widely hated LaRouch Party is more popular than the Greens.
Besides, the problem is not with the candidates or with the Democratic or Republican Parties. The problem is with the fraudulent two party representational form of government that allows K Street lobbyists to pay legalized bribes to buy off our representatives in Congress.
Once unlimited corporate money used to treasonously thwart democracy is stopped, then our representatives, no matter which party they belong to, will start to act for the benefit of WE THE PEOPLE instead of for the benefit of the K Street lobbyists.
Again, our representatives commit mutiny against us because it is the system that is dysfunctional, which can easily corrupt any newly elected representative, including a member of the Green Party. Over 400 of our Congressional representatives and our president are corrupted by easy bribe money flowing from K Street.
So please provide the proof that any Green candidate has the will power to resist the temptation that corrupts even highly principled multimillionaires. Pre-election promises don't count.
Let's face facts. Voting Green will do nothing to change the system. Voting green is just wasting your vote and your time. Better to stay home and not vote at all.
GIVE IT UP
There is no point in responding to Alan8. He's a one trick pony. Green Party, the Alpha and Omega.
Happy Puke Green Beer Party Day!!!
BBBUUUUUUURRRRRRRRPPPPP!!!