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The McCain Trap and Obama's Debate Challenge, By George Lakoff and Kathleen Frumkin

September 26, 2006

George Lakoff and Kathleen Frumkin

John McCain knew that there would be no bailout agreement before he announced that he would go to Washington, supposedly to help promote such an agreement in the spirit of bipartisanship. We smell a trap. Bush, Paulson, and the Congressional Republicans lure the Democrats (and Obama) into supporting a proposal based on a taxpayer bailout of Wall Street.

The Congressional Republicans then come out as apparent populists riding the wave of a taxpayer revolt against Wall Street and they identify the Democrats and Obama as supporters of Wall Street. McCain can then come to the debate and say:

1. that he is a maverick for not supporting the Bush proposal,

2. that he is a populist for being against a bailout by taxpayers,

3. that real populism is cutting taxes and getting rid of regulation, which is the Republican proposal, and

4. that this is "real reform"

If Obama just says the Republican proposal won’t work (following Paulson and Bernanke), he will still be tagged as an elitist friend of Wall Street. The debate will not have time to go into the details of why economists say it won’t work, and McCain can emerge smelling like a populist rose.

Of course, Obama is the real populist here, insisting on conditions to help homeowners and to return the money to taxpayers by giving the government equity in the corporations. McCain can simply call this socialism and more big government.

Obama has to undercut this possibility from the start. He has to come out with the populist proposals as central and the question of who pays and how as a technical economic question that cannot be solved by partisan ideology. He also has to characterize the Republican proposal to cut regulation and corporate taxes as even more as more of what got us into this mess. And he has to say out loud that McCain knew about the breakdown of negotiations before he went to Washington, and that the trip was an attempt to revive a failing campaign.

In the foreign policy segment, Obama has to avoid helping McCain. McCain will claim that "the surge worked." Obama should come out calling the surge from the start of the discussion "a political failure", and later mention that it has been only a partial security success — partial because, in any other country, over 100 attacks a month would be called impermissible violence, and that’s how many attacks the surge has resulted in. Given that we have 12 times the population of Iraq, that would be like having 1200 bombings a month in America. Would you call that "working" if it occurred here?

Obama needs a response to McCain’s call for "victory." A possible response is "Victory over who?" "What enemies would you sign a peace treaty with?" The people of Iraq? They mostly want us to leave, as does the elected government.

Obama also has to take the foreign policy debate out of the purely military arena, and talk about the hardest problems in the world that cannot be solved by military means: global warming, global economic issues and poverty, hunger, the oppression of women, ethnic cleansing, water, and so on. Our troops, as great as they are, cannot solve most foreign policy problems. Foreign policy requires a president with vision in all these areas.


    I spent the whole debate wishing....

    .....that George Lakoff had been there to help with debate prep.

    After several months of hitting the perfect framing when debating Hillary it is like he suddenly forgot how to do it. And while I understand that many issues are so spun that speaking actual reality sounds wacko, the chance to make a deliberate "Gaffe" that would frame the debate and set a flurry of fact checking to disprove the "gaffe" and thus educate everyone could have very great effect.

    As it was I kept waiting for Obama to jujitsu McCain's BS but instead said that McCain was right and correct etc so many times that we can expect that the Republicans will snip all of them together and make a whole 30 second ad on just that.

    Among the facts-
    The Georgia-Osetia fight was launched by Georgia, and very much more complicated than is admitted. Supporting Georgia sovereignty is much needed but standing as Obama did with their annexation of the break away parts is problematic. As is NATO membership by Ukraine or any Caucasus Nation.

    Iran is run by right wing theocrats, but there was much leftward drift until Bush gave them an enemy to oppose. An opening by Obama to not threaten them would go a long way toward dumping the theocrats. All the talk about Iranian nukes is balderdash, they have not violated the nonproliferation treaty, the centrifuges they have will not get them to more than fuel grade material.

    If they ever did attack Israel openly both the US and Israel would bring massive retaliation on any excuse. Obama needs to assure that they will not do so on no excuse at all. And the Folks we are supporting in Iraq are Iran's people, they are therefore not the opposition. Also it is Iran negotiations that caused most of the drop in violence, not the "surge".

    There is a simple solution to the credit meltdown. Most folks could maintain their mortgages (those who still have jobs)if the payments did not go through the roof. Stop that and the need for foreclosures drops, and the expenses that such massive foreclosures create in lowered values, lost income and expenses goes away, and the derivative mess can be unraveled in a sane way with no bail out

    The stick to create such sanity would be for the Government to insist on the same "Claw back" clauses that any Venture Capitalist would insist on, not just cutting back on Golden parachutes, but severely cutting and demanding back any income derived by those who mismanaged the Companies in the first place.

    If the Gang Of Pirates think that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat, only a fool would think it bipartisan to accommodate them by acting the part.

    Well said, Kathleen and George....

    Obama gave entirely too much deference and respect to McCain... and AGREED with him six (6) times! I certainly don't want to beat up on Senator Obama - god knows, he has the fate of the entire world riding on his shoulders - but as a HuffingtonPost commenter (us little people!) pointed out, Senator Obama AGREED with McCain at least SIX TIMES in the debate!

    This is of course Senator Obama FOLLOWING the "Democratic" "leadership" model, and the DC "Conventional Wisdom", that Republicans are honorable and honest, above board and deserving of respect.

    Nothing could be farther from the truth. Senator Obama's DEFERENCE TO, and "bipartisan respect of" Senator McCain - when there is NO reciprocal respect from McCain or his highway-men-robbers corporate lobbyist campaign - is a direct consequence of Nancy Pelosi "KEEPING IMPEACHMENT OFF THE TABLE," and not even running pre-impeachment hearings into abuses of power; i.e. Pelosi HELPING REPUBLICANS WHITEWASH all the past 8 years of criminal conduct, abuse of powers, stolen elections, lies-to-war, etc.

    The sheer VOLUME of Republican LIES - for example John McCain asserting that he supports Veterans' assistance, when he VOTED AGAINST EVERY VA BILL except the most recent one, that was going to pass without his vote anyways - is simply TOO MUCH for Obama or any other candidate to confront in a 90 minute debate.

    UNLESS, that is, CONFRONTING McCAIN's SERIAL LIES, and the Bush-Cheney administration's chronic criminal conduct - is THE focus of the Obama campaign.

    Clearly, the senator and his campaign managers have decided to play the DC Democrat game: GIVE McCain RESPECT and DEFERENCE where NO such respect is due, DEFERENCE and honor that are NOT reciprocated. Obama and the DC Democrats need to POUND OUT that - Bush & Cheney have TRASHED the Clinton Surplus, put Wall St. Flim-Flam artist HANK PAULSON in charge of the US Treasury, so now we taxpayers have to BAIL OUT Paulson and his CRONY FAT CATS on Wall St.... piling MORE DEBT on the already overloaded American taxpayer credit card in the process.

    (Or, to put the above in one sentence, "Why can't Obama and the DC Dems shout "BUSH DEFICITS and Cheney's oil policy of INCREASING DEPENDENCE on FOREIGN oil, MAKE AMERICA WEAKER and MORE VULNERABLE to economic disruption!"

    People, People, People...

    Everybody needs to take a step back and a deep breath. Yes, it appears that we are all being played, but not by Obama. That is what our friends across the aisle want us to think. They want us to lose faith...to blink. I believe in Barak Obama. When I listen to him speak, I feel a calmness I haven't felt in...well...almost 8 years. My advice to the Dems? DON'T BLINK! You are on the right side of this. And Folks, let's not forget this is a global economy, for good or ill. For anyone who has seen Ron Howard's movie, Backflash, the powerful line comes to my mind as the brother firemen are saving each other from peril, "If you go, WE go." Let's just relax, enjoy the debate. Frankly, I think Obama will wipe the floor with McCain. I get the sense from some things I have heard from Obama recently, that he is either listening to George Lakoff or he already has a very good grasp of reading people. I think he is our next Great Communicator (it was bound to happen...there's never only one or a last one). We have all been cursed to live in interesting times. But they are our times. We might as well make the best of it. Obama/Biden 2008

    I hope Obama follows your advice

    I hope Obama follows your advice and rejects this trillion dollar indenture of our grandchildren to Wall Street, but sadly he seems to be in bed with Bush on this.

    Bailout

    I'd like to hear Obama point out that the public overwhelmingly reject the massive bailout, because they don't believe the banks deserve it, and don't trust the Bush administration's claim that there is dire danger.

    Therefor, any bailout should be paid for by temporarily increasing corporate taxes. If the situation is so dire, Wall Street will gladly pay higher taxes for a bit to avoid a meltdown. If they reject it, we know it was all a scam.