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Of crackpots, rightists, and wingers: The "conservative" GOP?

THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

I suppose it's only through force of habit that we still use the phrase, "right-wing Republicans," which, like "unsolved mystery" or "free gift," is a tautological offense against our mother tongue -- a distinctive distinction without a different difference. I mean, when was the last time you heard someone refer to a "left-wing socialist"?

Once upon a time, the "right-wing" portion of "right-wing Republicans" did have a necessary adjectival meaning. It identified right-wing Republicans, as well as right-wing Republicans, in the unmistakable sense that those chaps were indeed but one wing of the party, and they were to the right of the internal others.

That was a time when we occasionally spoke of liberal Republicans, or, with far more frequency, of moderate Republicans. But those species, as you know, are long since virtually extinct; they went the way of the hula hoop and the shiny metallic grille and the single-blade safety razor. They suffered a sustained assault of brutal ideological cleansing; they are, pretty much, no more. There are only the right wingers, which, as competitive slaughter would have it, means they're no "wing" at all. Republicans are just righties, radically rotten to the core.

I hasten to interject here that I'm writing especially of Congressional Republicans, and those scrambling little local pols who aspire to higher Congressional Republicanism. For there remains a substantial element of the electorate out there that still confuses and conflates "Republicanism" with "conservatism" -- in calling themselves conservatives, that is, they also fancy themselves Republicans, but only out of habit, since the former term has nothing to do with the latter.

There are true, faithful conservatives, just as there survives a true, faithful conservatism, and then there are Beltway Republicans, and Beltway Republicanism. One should choose or differentiate, although one mustn't yet choose. The dreadful, vastly mistaken blur remains, repeated endlessly in the media and by the rightist pols themselves and propagated by even their opposition. If one regards oneself as a conservative, then one must be a Republican.

As What's the Matter with Kansas author Thomas Frank has written in the somewhat contradictorily titled The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule, "In its classic form, the wellspring of conservatism is supposed to be a desire to preserve the connections between the present and the past." That, it is almost needless to repeat, is the elementary desideratum of the true conservative and once the social object of political Republicanism.

"But in America," Frank astutely notes, "conservatism [has become] a destroyer of tradition, not a preserver. Left unconstrained by other forces, the free-market system" -- which, since Reagan, has thundered as elected Republicans' rallying cry, far more than demagogically opportunistic Puritanism -- "is one of the most restless, destructive arrangements ever contrived -- tearing down and building up..., driving up prices and bidding down wages, moving populations willy-nilly about the map, and scheming always to reduce the arts and sciences to sycophancy."

Part of the genuine conservative effort in preserving "connections between the present and the past" is to embrace what's new, if, that is, it possesses practical benefits and provides social stability -- one thinks, for instance, of the Social Security system, which for decades Republican pols of Dirksenian or even Nixonian ilk wouldn't have dreamed of upending. Today, however, even though Social Security has proven to be virtually politically untouchable, one isn't shocked to find Republican pols who don't positively drool at the thought of obliterating the whole shebang and leaving workers to individually "contract" with their aged future.

The right, the wingers, have come to define Republicanism, and have done such violence to conservatism's authentic meaning as to detach, one would think, true conservatives from their still-principal base of operations: the Republican Party. There is, of course, always a lag in such transformations; it does take time for many to wake up -- Hello? Calling Olympia Snowe & Constituents -- and realize there is no longer any traditional ideological earth beneath them, that they have been floating along on ethereal clouds of fundamental deception, degradation, and devolution.

They are marooned amidst the likes of the lunatic Joe Wilson, whose supreme lunacy has now earned him the select right to sign fundraising letters for the National Republican Congressional Committee; they are stuck with the likes of Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin, who yesterday scribbled that President Obama's educational policy is but "Rappin’, revolution & radicalism"; they are burdened by the likes of Birthers, Swastika-Scrawlers, and Death-Panelers.

To the extent that the Republican Party has -- because of its own intellectually arrested and emotionally unstable reasons -- failed to renounce the above groupings, those groupings have become not merely the face of the party, but its heart. Republican strategist Mark McKinnon, one of the surviving lucid ones, observed the other day that "Right now the Democrats generally get defined by President Obama, and Republicans, who have no clear leadership, get defined by crackpots -- and then they begin to define the Republican Party in the mind of the general public."

Begin? I think we've surpassed that. We're in at least the middle game. Because other words for "crackpot" are rightist and winger -- the inhuman essence, that is, of modern Republicanism.

I just wish all those real conservatives -- as they awaken, stretch, and find themselves homeless -- had somewhere else to go, because in lieu of a true conservative party, they'll flood the Democrat's and further dilute its already endangered FDR-style progressivism.

 

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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter




Just Two Addenda.....

Mr. Carpenter:

1. You stated that even GOPers have been reluctant to publicly speak out against S.S. and entitlements.  However, you neglected to mention that FDR had faced stiff Repub opposition to the original enactment of S.S., just as LBJ had to battle the likes of a certain clown named "Reagan", who in the 1960s, had no power but did have a platform, and fervently denounced the introduction of Medicare (never found an entitlement he liked, never found an armed conflict he disliked!);

2. You almost lamented that the true conservatives have nowhere to go, since the hijacking of the GOP by neocons (which itself has been in progress for many years, even decades).  But, they DO have somewhere to go: it is called the Libertarian Party, maybe you've heard of them, been around for about forty years.  They have much the same platform as the conservatives, sans the hard-line anti-social agenda.

here's a sincere reply

answer to your first question: it's the former - for real.

Doesn't Matter What The Conservatives Have Degenerated Into

What matters is that we progressives make sure that Congress passes & President Obama signs a single payer bill, whereupon, empowered by our victory over the powers that be,  no problem, our pressuring the government to bring the troops out now, get serious about countering global warming, not to mention their putting the interests of Main Street before Wall Street.  Otherwise?  Perpetual war + global warming + economic collapse = doomsday, that's what.

Greetings from the

Greetings from the far-right,

Normally I read these kind of articles for the entertainment value but I decided this one time that I would make an account and join the conversation. Really what I would like to know is this: are you guys for real or do you just figure if you sling enough stuff on the wall that something has got to stick?

So, I'm going to go out on a limb and give you the benefit of the doubt and figure that somehow you guys actually believe this stuff you write. So I'll book mark this page and come back later to see if anyone is going to have a conversation or just try to call names. Here are a couple questions to start the conversation.

Have you noticed the federal government does not act within the boundaries of the constitution? when did this start happening, and why?

If we followed the constitution do you think people would be enabled by the 2nd amendment to build a machine gun nest on the roof of their house, park a tank next to it and have missle launcher in their back yard?

Do you believe it would be possible to have a federal government that follows the constitution and still have your beloved social programs?

What is the danger of a federal government that does not follow the rule of law? how many years was Rome a Republic before Ceaser took power from the people and changed the Republic forever?

I look forward to our conversation.

Regards,

Gebbith

posted in wrong position

my 'here's a sincere reply" was supposed to post here. Something got misplaced when I had to sign in.

Prattling

You really haven't written anything yet worthy of a reply ......... but keep trying.

Belief?

Do you actually believe your own comment? Do you truly believe that the "fecderal government does not act within the boundaries of the constitution?" In saying that I'm assuming you aren't referring to the unwarranted searches via wiretapping etc. that the Bush administration instituted, but somehting else. However, since you don't actually say what that is, it begs the question.

Precisely what is unconstiutional? I ask this because I  see you and your ilk consistently talking up this game, but never actually proving your case beyond passing referrals to the 10th ammendment, which of course utterly ignores 200 years of legal precedents, constitutional ammendments, and supre court rulings. You rant about about "unconstitutioonal" and "taking away civil liberties" but fail to mention what is uncostiutional, or what freedoms are lost. Your argument is nothing but straw men and red herrings. It lacks substance, knowledge, history, and merit. Why do you people consistently combat knowledge with ignorance and the cry foul when someone doesn't buy it? If your going to make an argument, then make one, but don't just shout plattiutdes and expect that is going to convince anyone.

The next point

While the 16th amendment does give the federal government power to tax individual income it has turned the power structure of our republic upside down. Instead of the states paying for their own social programs from taxes collected from their own citizens the federal government raised taxes to the point they strangle the states of their income just enough they have to come and beg money from the federal gov. The fed happliy gives them the money they collected from their own citizens with strings attached. Furthermore they require additional unfunded programs in order to receive that tax money they took from the state to begin with.

Couple the 16th amendment with a rogue judicial branch and there is a powerful yet subtle userping of state power where the fed is establishing it's self as the absolute power of the land.

You are entirely correct to point out what bush did and he played his part in consolidating federal power then passed the baton to obama. This is not a new trend, and both parties are guilty of ever increasing federal power regardless of who is in power. Even though I fall into the camp people describe as the far-right wing of the republican party (libertarian) I did not vote for McCain, he is far too much of a "statist" for me and I explained to my friends before the election that McCain would destroy the country just as much as Obama but in a slightly different way.

If you look at the trend of the power shift dating all the way back to the creation of the federal reserve there is a steady shift of power from states to the federal government. A constitutional congress would be removing judges from office who go rogue and violate the constitution but instead we have several branches of the federal government all working together to take ultimate power which brings us to a day where they have no shame taking over corperations and a myriad of other things that are not specifically delegated powers in the constitution.

I have personally come to the conclusion that if this trend continues we will some day elect a president who will never leave office and won't need any more elections.

Both parties have so confused people by blaming the other party over trivial social preferences (in the big picture) that quietly while everyone is mesmerized by health care and abortion they are consolidating power until the day they can just outright dictate everything they want. I am not your enemy, and really I don't mind any state of the union that wants to provide health care or any other social program like social security or medicaid and medicare for their state. Know that I only want to preserve the balance of power in our republic so that tyranny is not what my children inherit. Do not use the federal government for these purposes, it's too dangerous.

Take a look at what happened to Rome. School talks about the 3 branches of government and the balance of power between them, but they never mention the balance of power between the states and the federal government. We all have the freedom under a constitutional federal government to live in a state to our liking. With 50 states there would be one with lots of social programs and one without but having lower taxes. Granted the 16th amendment is constitutional but it needs to be repealed and the states need to be able to address these social problems at a level that is managable and leave us the ability to vote with our feet and move to a state that is to our liking without having to leave this country.

I sincerely hope that you read my concerns here with an open mind and even if you don't agree with my conclusions at least understand what I am saying.

Excellent!

Correct me if I misunderstood, but it sounds like you just said 200 years of legal precedent, constitutional amendments and Supreme Court rulings have nullified the 10th amendment of the constitution. I don’t recall reading any amendment to the constitution that repeals the 10th or 9th amendment. I have included article 5 of the constitution here that outlines the amendment process. I don’t see anything in article 5 or any of the amendments that give this power of amendment to the Supreme Court. If your claim about the 10th amendment no longer being valid because of the courts is true then you have just made one of my points about the Federal Government – 3 branches Judicial, Legislative, and Executive. A rogue Judicial branch of the federal government invalidating the 10th amendment without following the amendment process.  Your argument doesn’t hold water, and actually makes my point.

I'll write more in response to your question asking specifics a little later.

Regards

Article V - Amendment Note1 - Note2 - Note3

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

logic of convience has no respectability

When I was in high school in very conservative Arizona at the  time of Joe McCarthy there was considerable lecturing about why the Communists were not a legitimate political party and no point that they made could be taken at face value.

The first reason given was that there was no spectrum allowed, if you differed much from their current talking points you would at the least be tossed aside(as opposed to Republicans and Democrats that at the time had a large Right/Left range), and the other was that they used Toxic methods of propaganda that any argument was for momentary advantage only, and would be abandoned, even taking the opposite view, even alternate facts, if the need changed.

They also taught of the many methods of subversion, with the caution to watch out for anyone doing that. I never experienced Russian agents doing these things, but from the early 1970s I have seen all of the techniques applied, not by any of those they pointed to, but by folk that would consider Goldwater a leftist.

Today the Republican Party contains no more range than the old Communists, the same alternate reality no matter how stunning (even try to imagine if the teabaggers had been treated like the current Pittsburg Protestors, much less as under Bush) perhaps even more blatant head snapping reversals, like states rights for segregation, but not for medical marijuana, or pollution regulation, and now back again for Medicare or regulation of Insurance, and back the other way to gut state Insurance regulation.

The Acorn bit is even worse, three low level employees get conned, with a very edited video done, and suddenly they are 40 years of corruption? Even as all that can possibly be accused is that they tried to help someone who should have been arrested, even as the police were called on several other(edited out)occasions. Meanwhile the very real "culture of corruption" that actually had subteen sex slaves, and tossed around more money as footballs, than have ever passed Acorn's bank account are protected and defended.

Even the Republican posterboy for pedophillia (with much competition) is on winger welfare with nary a formal charge made or a day in jail. (though a few months in a rehab spa to be "cured", and kept from view).


If the Gang Of Pirates think that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat, it is not any part of Bipartisan to accommodate them and roll over and play dead.

I agree totally

The right wing is willfully ignorant and mean rather than thoughtful and logical.  They depise facts and critical thinking with a religious fervor.  Their platform is a set of self-contradictory tenets of dogma that disipates with the first line of questioning....

 

So why is Obama losing policy contests with them?  He takes their silly premises and makes them his own, and is applauded by his sycophants for this vapid triangulation as a brilliant "chess player", I guess he thinks that casually discarding his campaign promises one by one will confuse his opponents with unanticipated a priori capitulaton, but that is the strategy of a cowardly simpleton, and Obama does not come off that way. 

So why is he losing?

There's only one thing missing...

You know, P.M., I read this very closely, and I don't one negative slap against liberals...no name-calling, no snarky putdowns...nothing. Hold on, let me check again........................................................................................................

Nope, nothing there. You're really falling down on the job here, man.

As for what you DID write, I am going to repeat what I have been saying for years--the GOP has become a cult, pure and simple. They meet every dictionary definition. 

In 1987 the Fairness Doctrine was repealed. So what we have had is a 30-year experiment on the conservative brain.

Take a Bircher (already a conspiracy nut and hater of all things leftist), and give him 8 hours of dumbed-down hate speech and putrified ideological rants a day, 5 days a week, for 30 years, and see what happens.

I think we have our answer.

Today's GOP comes directly from this pool of testosterone-addled dimwits. It is no accident that Rush Limbaugh is their god. They are authoritarian and dogmatic when republicans rule and revolutionaries and anarchists when democrats rule.

It could be argued that today's GOP suffers from a disease--its members have brains that are "abby-normal" after being subjected to 30 years of hateful claptrap with no balance. It's probably reversable--in much the same way a person with asthma should refrain from smoking--but that would require people laying off the Limbaugh and Beck for a few weeks.

Not. Guh. Hapn'.

So we're stuck with them. In fact, nutjob media outlets are not likely to be reduced anytime soon, but instead, increase. So the insanity will increase. We have not reached the tipping point. I predict that one year into Obama's 2nd term we may see something that will make us hope we have seen the worst.

These people aren't going anywhere. Their numbers are increasing. And they're getting crazier.

Day by day.

 

 

A Cult

The present day Republican Party is little more than a religious cult.

 

I had to laugh to myself reading some of the responses on "constitutional???"

Possibly.... the writer had been in a coma for the eight years prior to the new Obama administration.  Nobody has taken away anybody's guns, or God.  Two of the biggest concerns to cause right wing anxiety attacks.

What the bitch is...... most likely..... is that women, insteading of walking two steps behind men..... now have control of their bodies... through the use of birth control.  (The third concern most likely to cause a right-winger to have a major league anxiety attack.)

Using the label --- "right wing religious nuts " --- maybe a just a tad more civil than the label "right wing Republican religious cult", which is what the Republican Party has become.