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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

I love polls, and I'm glad I love them, because if I hated them I wouldn't read them, and I just love 'em. (Thank you, Clarence Darrow). The latest poll to emerge, however -- the NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey -- isn't all that lovable, since it tends to confirm that once again we're lapsing into a wizened polarization; that the unifying optimism and confidence of November 2008 are largely gone.

President Obama's job approval rating? A seemingly stabilized 51 percent, with a narrow plurality expressing doubt "that Obama has the right goals ... for the country" and only four out of ten Americans confident that "he has the right policies to improve the economy" (although, and this is just part of every observer's enduring frustration with public opinion polls, "the number saying they’re satisfied about the state of the economy has jumped 20 points since July").

But on the matter of health-care reform, surely after Obama's major, televised speech to Congress, the wild enthusiasm of his pro-reform rallies and his carpet-bombing of primetime media, surely there's been some significant uptick in general support. Right?

Not right. The ranks of those who believe that Obama's proposed health-care reforms are a "good idea" have been swelled, since August, by a whopping three points. This is within the poll's margin of error, but in sort-of statistical fact there are more who believe the needed reforms are a "bad idea."

Virtually identical percentages approve or disapprove of Obama's overall handling of health-care reform (45 and 46, respectively), but a more detectable gap appears when it comes to plain old fear: "48 percent say they’re more concerned that reform will go too far and make the system worse, compared with 44 percent who are more concerned that reform won’t do enough to cut costs and lower the [number of the] uninsured."

As for the level of public support for the severely wounded, crippled and hobbling-along public option, that remains anybody's guess. In July, again according to an NBC/WSJ poll, support/opposition split 46/44, in August it flipped to 43/47, and today, depending on how one asks the question, either a modest percentage or a vast majority supports it -- both of which almost laughably surfaced in this latest NBC/WSJ poll.

Such broad bafflement and confusion and contradictions tell us more than at first we might think: The public, by and large, possesses barely a clue as to what "public option" even means.

Actually, this shouldn't surprise. After all, for week after unrelenting week MSNBC's Ed Schultz, for instance, bellowed and pounded his electronically gleaming table about a public option being the only promise of shutting down the exclusionary scourge of preexisting conditions, while media whackjobs on the right uniformly pronounced a public option as the brutal end of Christendom and the ushering in of absolute Stalinism.

The one thing I would say in hearty defense of Mr. Schultz is what Walter Matthau said of Andy Griffith's ruthless Southern-demagogue character in the rivetingly classic 1957 film, "A Face in the Crowd": "He's got the courage of his ignorance." As for all those right-wing media propagandists, too numerous to mention by name, there is, simply, no excuse. They are, quite literally, inexcusable.

The larger point is this: Here the ideological edges and excessively partisan pols and hysterical commentariat have for months been waging bloody warfare over the sure benefits or coming devastation of an accompanying public plan, while the expansive Middle has sat and said, Huh? What precise manner of byzantine policy are they screaming about?

The result is a profoundly uninformed divide or disinterest, which, as you know -- you must, since you're taking the time to read stuff like this -- cracks this nation like an eggshell right down the middle on most every major issue, even the supreme no-brainers, such as single-payer, or, at the very least, a public option.

What's a progressive pol like Barack Obama, sitting there with his 51 percent job approval rating, supposed to do? Give another speech? No, that wouldn't work. Too many are watching Tom DeLay on "Dancing with the Stars," whose partner, I read somewhere yesterday, didn't even know who he was until he elbowed his way onto her stage. Go ahead, I dare you. Go ahead and ask someone like that to define "public option"; I can guarantee that if they supply any answer at all, it'll be whatever little piece they last caught on "The Ed Show" or from Glenn Beck.

So what is the answer? You got me. As a starter, though, I would recommend that liberals stop hustling liberalism as an ideology and start selling it as, merely, what works -- also known non-ideologically as the ideology of pragmatism. Because it does work -- an empirically verifiable truism from the age of Franklin D. Roosevelt right through the postwar era and on up to Ronald Reagan's murder of practical solutions.

Remember, Americans have traditionally fancied themselves as pragmatists, which is how Reagan, essentially, so successfully bamboozled the electorate: He sold the unworkable ideology of pseudoconservatism as a utile, functional program of governance.

Happily, most progressive pieties happen to coincide with pragmatic solutions; but, unhappily, too many progressives are too busy screaming the pieties rather than emphasizing their inherent pragmatism.

Obama has labored to reverse (to progress against) this self-defeating course, but, seemingly, with little luck, and largely because he's received so little help from his loud, ideological allies. The latters' pieties only turn off the vast Middle, who merely want to be told what works -- and tend not to listen when all they hear is voluble outrage.

Calm resolve isn't weakness. It's strength. And it could help to move the Middle, if only the left knew how.

 

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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter




Ed = the rightwing demagogues?

One is the moral equivalent of the other? Especially since, from PM's own quote, Ed presented the public option AS a  practical solution to a stated problem, not simply an ideology, in which the virtue is purely self-evident? But it's not a false dichotemy to offer Ed as as fear-mongering, nonsensical, hysterical, and - oh yeah - as full of made-up crap as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh? And then, by implication, to lump everyone left of PM himself as just another Ed Schultz? Truly, it may be time for PM to apply for a job as Lanny Davis' researcher, or ghost writer, or something.

Good Lord, I am sore-amazed!

I get off work and thumb thru Buzzflash and what do I find? P.M. Carpenter's almost-daily screed against liberals.

In this edition, we find that we liberals like to "bellow," have the "courage of ignorance," are members of the "ideological edge" and "hysterical commentariat," who wage "bloody war," and "scream," "scream" "scream!"

We "hustle" our liberalism and "scream pieties." We are "loud" and display "voluble outrage."

And of course, we know not what we do.

I believe that about covers it. I only have one thing to add.

Please support the public option.

 

Polls

The Wall Street Journal - now -- how would they phrase a question about the public option on a survey?

First, they wouldn't use the word "choice" because a majority of Americans favor choice -- in just about everything from cars, to shirts to burgers to ball teams.  And probably even about health insurance.  But, didn't I hear Chuck Todd interviewed recently....and he said they took out the word choice?? I do believe I did.

So, depending on how you ask the question.... will dictate what the answer will be. And how your survey will turn out. An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll would not poll in zip codes with low income folks, like where I live.....nor would they ask people if they want a choice in their health insurance.   Ergo.... so they The Wall Street Journal got the results they wanted, from their survey.

That's the way polls work.  That's why I don't love polls.  But...

 

By the way..... I love Ed Schultz.

Me 2

By the way..... I love Ed Schultz.

At least he can recognize and acknowlege when he is wrong ......... which unfortunately is far too often his first position on any topic. :·]

Just asking

Is any society which can no longer act pragmatically inevitably thus doomed?

How more simple can an irrefutable argument be than: Liberal policies usually work, but Conservative ones never do?

"Liberal policies work". That's not ideology, that's reality!

Of course Liberal policies work because Liberal polices benefit WE THE PEOPLE, and strengthen America.

On the other hand, Conservative policies benefit the upper 1% plutocracy and their multinational corporations. This creates huge inequities, which lead to social upheaval, anarchy and violence.

I'm surprised we have yet to experience an urban riot. But with the economy being as bad as it it, the riots could easily start in a suburban mall.

read Naomi Klein, disaster capitalism

The GOP is set to profit and gain control from social upheaval, anarchy and violence. Witness the aftermath of Katrina, the raid on vote counting in Florida.

"What works" is an excellent criterion.

The Sermon on the Mount works. The Ten Commandments works.

Government by the consent of the governed works.

Inalienable rights works. tell it to the torturers.

Cite the Geneva Conventions or the US Code of Military Justice to the architects of 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq.

What doesn't work, has never worked, is the US military interventions.

But that's fine with the GOP. Because what doesn't work makes the GOP a lot of money.

It does work ($$$) Just not from your perspective

You are not a part of the upper 1% plutocracy who controls all of the multinational corporations who controls all the rest of us.

To them we are nothing more than disposable cogs in their global money making machinery. Got it?

NOW GET BACK TO WORK SLAVE!!!

It's worse

Everything 'Conservative' defies facts and logic.

Unfortunately, almost half of America is quite comfortable with that as their mindset.

Maybe it is time for us to collapse and start over?

_Part_ of the solution

Yes, America is the home of pragmatic philosophy.  Unfortunately, I'm sure nine out of ten Americans would be pressed to name a philosopher much less a pragmatic one. 

Americans want talk about "common sense."  Karl Rove's genius was manifested in his realization that his brand of truth should be marketed through the churches.  Americans aren't intellectuals and cultural memes are transmitted through the churches in this country.  So you do want piety and you do want a "vision" (however one should talk about an idealology of moral principles).  That is what motivates.  But, of course, it must be presented as "common sense."  Just as Karl Rove, and Ronald Reagan before him, presented the Neocon ideology as "common sense."

I Kant name one philosopher either!

Rove is not a genius, he is a liar and a cheat... possibly a murderer too. His philosophy, or more correctly, propaganda, can be summed up in one sentence:

Are you going to believe your lying eyes or what I tell you to believe?

Oh Lord

Oh Lord, P.M., you have done it again. Once again, you have posted the polls and and given an accurate picture of the political landscape. Now all the "real progressives" will get the vapors and be utterly unable to organize and implement a credible counter-attack on the Republicans and Congress.

An accurate picture? Says who? Where is your proof?

I see you are still dishonestly posting your wrong headed opinions as facts. But at least you left out the name calling this time.

And the progressives' credible counter-attack is being waged, not on the completely out of power Republicans, but on the Blue Dog DINO-Fascists, including Obama and Rahmbo.