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Obama's pragmatism remains popular, leaving some in the ideological dust

THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

Despite inherited wars, a debilitating economic hangover, a disagreeable Congress and the increasingly unpleasant media, President Obama, reports Gallup, has slipped only slightly in his job approval rating: 58 percent for the first week of July, compared to a 61 percent average for June.

What identifiably shifting trouble he does have comes almost entirely from independents; their thumbs-up is now at 53 percent, while last month it hovered near 60. This comes as little surprise, however, given that independents' overall lack of an orienting political philosophy tends to manifest in greater volatility of opinion. If you don't know where you've been, and why, it's much more difficult to know where you wish to go.

Nevertheless, the above was a veritable plunge compared to Republicans. Within the last month their approval of the job Obama is doing has merely inched downward from 25 percent to 23 percent (a gap, by the way, that also represents the margin of sampling error), having already accomplished most of their amplifying disapproval from January through June. So that seems to have leveled out, for the time being, anyway; and any way you cut it, support for Obama from one out of every four Republicans is still counterintuitively sizable.

The mother lode of consistent opinion comes from self-identifying Democrats, who, reports Gallup, "have remained stalwart in their support for Obama all year, with this month's average rating of 90% roughly in line with where it has been all year." In fact, it's ticked up a point in the last few weeks.

And that's rather remarkable when you stop to consider that just a year or two ago many of those self-identifying Democrats weren't Democrats. Their ranks have since been swelled by youthful newcomers to the electoral process, profoundly disaffected Republicans, and, even if temporarily, party-committing independents.

Hence, while Obama's 90 percent approval rating from Democrats is a partisan rating, it also isn't -- not in the sense of hidebound, lifelong partisans who literally can be counted on, no matter what.

Even more remarkable, however, is, after six months, the generally favorable hue of the statistically aforementioned when juxtaposed with this piece's lede: that is, Obama's headaches of inherited wars, a debilitating economy, a disagreeable Congress and the increasingly unpleasant media.

And a little perspective, especially on the economy, which is just about all that most voters care about, indeed spotlights the genuine remarkableness of those favorable numbers.

To wit, yesterday evening I was reading the July/August issue of The Atlantic and had made my way to James Fallows' interview of economist Nouriel Roubini, better known as "Dr. Doom." The article's first paragraph was jolting, because in it, Fallows noted (for reasons I won't go into here) that on March 28, 2007 -- "on that day" -- "the Dow Jones industrial average was above 12,000, the S&P 500 was above 1,400, and the U.S. unemployment rate was 4.4 percent."

While those circumstantial figures of our then-economic welfare now seem almost surreal, they decidedly are not forgotten. They come from only yesterday, whose bright future -- as far too many read it -- seemed boundless. Despite stubborn underlying problems of, for instance, wage stagnation, at least interest rates were low, employment was high, credit was easy, and before long every one of us would be couched in our very own five-bedroom estate.

Yet well within only two years it would all come crashing down, like the ill-constructed Tower of Economic Babel it was. We were systemically, foundationally flawed, and the fault lines were more, much more, than merely subprimed. Said Dr. Doom, "It was subprime, it was near-prime, it was prime mortgages. It was home-equity-loan lines. It was commercial real estate, it was credit cards, it was auto loans" -- and, as Fallows wrote, Roubini's "list was just getting started."

Obama now owns a full six months of the crushing aftermath, well outside the honeymoon bubble. And yet, although there's been some expected slippage in job approval, he still commands, notwithstanding soaring unemployment and careening deficits, the support of six out of ten Americans -- who largely and patiently see recovery as does Dr. Doom, who gave "relatively high grades [to] Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner ... [and] overall support ... for the administration's response to the economic crisis."

In short, the average American remains more in sympathetic and comprehending tune with the stubborn realities Obama is facing than do the putatively well informed and hyperopinionated, who, after all, should know better.

And I find that remarkable.

 

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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter


What?

"Obama now owns a full six months of the crushing aftermath, well outside the honeymoon bubble".

What?!?!

The average honeymoon for modern-era Presidents has been 7 months, so Obama is not well outside anything. Beyond that, the article you cite notes that, with the exception of Clinton, Obama's approval ratings are on par with Nixon and GWB, and lower than all of the other Presidents.

Keep spinning, though, PM.

It's funny to watch.

Independents

I think the comment about "independents' overall lack of an orienting political philosophy" is unfair. I would expect that any given independent is at least as likely to have a political philosophy that is not compatible with either of the major parties as to have no political philosophy at all.

wrong as ususal

I knew i could count on you Mr. Carpenter to give us another DLC leadership counsel article in support of snake oil salesman Barrack Obama.As i pointed out in my last criticism of one of your all praise Obama speeches just what has Obama done for the people name one positive thing.I am sure the centerist part of our party the conservative Democrats who are really Republican love Obama but real democrats who believe the Democratic party is suppose to help the people they serve have all came to the same conclusion I have.Obama is another phony who works for the corporations.

Pragmatism is too tied to utilitarianism

Utilitarianism: the greatest happiness for the greatest number. That moral compromise went up in smoke with the Holocaust. Pragmatism too often spits on inconvenient principle to be a guiding light for a society.

Obama's "Pragmatism"

Thank you, zeldon("'average' american's opinion"), for putting it so succinctly exactly what is going on. P.M. Carpenter and his ilk would have us wait forever to see that "CHANGE" Obama promised, but I see no sign whatsoever. What puzzles me is why Buzzflash still tries to portray Obama as some kind of progressive liberal. It's good to see that people are not so fooled by the "flim flam" man. I knew when they got rid of Edwards we were in big trouble. It would be nice if Buzzflash could help us out and point out Obama's numerous flaws so we can get some real change in America. Obama's just another right winger. There is no choice in America when it comes to voting. You can have A or B, but they're all the same. Right wing capitalists, or else they're one way or another disengaged from the political process.

who let the dogs out

Thanks, P.M. Nice to see other people with a overview -- an ability to look at the whole picture, look at both (actually many) sides, and be free of preconceived ideological demands to meet in order to qualify for success. Many here in the forum have such an onus on them, placed there by themselves -- but they are unaware of its damning effects. And so we see what Robert Parry calls "the carping Left" all too frequently -- around BuzzFlash and out there on the "internets" . It's counterproductive-- but it seems that Obama is strong enough to shake these yipping, ankle-biting pesky dogs off - so far.

Would that be ...

... the same "yipping, ankle-biting pesky dogs" that he promised "change" during the campaign, in exchange for their votes?

Funny how now, after the election, they're just bothersome "yipping, ankle-biting pesky dogs".

Carpenter Channels Santelli

In short, the average American remains more in sympathetic and comprehending tune with the stubborn realities Obama is facing than do the putatively well informed and hyperopinionated...

Are you sure you know where YOU have been and where YOU want to go? Rick Santelli lit off the tea Baggers with his snide comment that the traders at the Chicago Exchange were "real Americans" as if the rest of us were not. Your "average American" crack defies the logic most of us are facing on the real-world Main St. you seem not to understand.

Just what has Obama done that shows he's making any progress on our problems? Is unemployment declining? Are those about to use up the last of their extended unemployment benefits feeling like they won't just fall off the statistical chart because they are neither employed nor still on the dole? What of the government workers across the nation whose jobs expired in July? What of the millions of foreclosures across the nation that the bank bailout was supposed to ease?

If Lincoln had been this "understanding" about McClellan, the South would have been given their independence from the US in 1862. History reminds us that Lincoln's patience had expired, and he kept taking action until something worked.

So again I ask: WHAT IS OBAMA DOING? The short answer: selling out Main Street to protect the corporate America which gave him the Oval Office.

"average" american's opinion

Obama is doing the job he was hired to do, namely making Imperialism and Corporatism seem like the quest for Peace and Democracy and Abundance. The "comprehending" Americans Carpenter refers to, have not the slightest clue as to the size and nature of this flim-flam, called here "pragmatism." I would guess that younger voters are the most deceived by it all. From that point of view, he deserves his high job ratings. So it is murder abroad and theft everywhere--thats the American Way, but the First Family is adorable.

Change you can believe in that's just more of the same!

Now all we need is for the Republicans to hold the DINO Blue Dogs accountable, and we will have achieved a complete reversal of political parties... that's really just more of the same!

Your salient insight

"-- as far too many read it --"

Glad that he is popular with the many ......... and how does their record for being right about things look to you of late?

Isn't It Self-Evident Now That There Is No Alternative?

"To capitalism?" "No, to our rising up en masse." "And then what sort of world?" "It'll be up to us." "Otherwise?" "Doomsday." "Based on?" "Perpetual war + global warming + economic collapse."

Capitalism, what a great idea! The US should try it!

Instead, we have a militarist, imperialist, genocidal, fascist oligarchy run by a plutocracy.

We can vote for anyone we want, just so long as the politicians can be easily bought out by the K Street pimps for the upper 1% Plutocracy.