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Would a torture investigation be Dick Cheney's final revenge?

THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

There used to be some element of surprise attached to the following, now commonplace observation: I'm not sure Congressional Republicans have really thought this thing out.

Others know just as little of what they do as Pete Hoekstra, the House intelligence committee's ranking member, but it's Hoekstra who has reaped the most attention among the Congressional ranks for saying things like this, to the Politico:

"If someone is going to schedule hearings [on the Bush administration's "enhanced interrogation" policies], I believe that the first witness should be Nancy Pelosi. Clearly, she was involved in policy formulation."

Aside from committing politics by snark, a rather common Republican phenomenon, Hoekstra's first point seems entirely admissible: Having been briefed as a minority-party committee member on what the Bush administration was up to in 2002, it makes perfect sense for now-Speaker Pelosi to be called as an early witness.

But that second point, the one of such non-sequitur extravagance -- "Clearly, she was involved in policy formulation"? Well, that's just plain bewildering, even in view of its nakedly political motivation. To equate a mere briefing with formulation, or insist that the latter necessarily flows from the former, is a logical fallacy too far, even for Republicans.

Needless to say, I'm neither the first to point this out nor will I be the last. Consequently it broadly renders the likes of the GOP's Pete Hoekstras rather silly, which really isn't something they can afford much more of these days.

Nonetheless they did, and still do, have a "goal," as the Politico reports, although it appears to reflect the now-standard Republican m.o. of thinking only one move ahead at all times, in all cases. And that goal "is to dissuade Democrats from pursuing an inquiry that could lead to the prosecution of Bush administration officials by making it clear to Democrats that Pelosi and other lawmakers would have to testify, too" [emphasis mine]. Dissuasion, that is, through intimidation.

Naturally, the GOP's bogeywoman of Nancy Pelosi seems ideal: "Republicans say new revelations about a CIA briefing Pelosi received in 2002 have given them their best shot yet at blocking a sprawling probe into Bush administration interrogation techniques."

That strategy, however, could very well backfire -- and the more strenuously the GOP pushes it, the more certain it becomes to accomplish just that: to blow up in their face.

In short, to protect her reputation Pelosi may move from strongly encouraging a "sprawling probe" to downright insisting on one. Sure, she'll say, I'd be happy to testify; but in that event let's haul everybody in, under oath, and a good 99 percent of those "everybodies" will be -- you got it -- Republicans.

Now there's no question that Ms. Pelosi's assorted and meandering public statements on the briefing issue have been shaky, at best. Yet I won't bother relating the voluminous and still-growing he-said-she-said accounts of this issue -- which would remain just that after an investigation -- because if I did, I'd still wind up making this basic point: Pelosi's "ignorance" defense may be dismayingly un-credible, but it's also utterly irrelevant.

Once again it's a Republican who, rather unwittingly, not only makes a good case for investigation, but an excellent case regarding ultimate responsibility. I give you Sen. Lamar Alexander:

"If it's fair game to second-guess the lawyers in the Justice Department who were doing their job for doing a legal opinion that was asked for, then it's fair game to investigate the intelligence officers who asked for the opinion, the Bush administration officials who approved the interrogation techniques, the members of Congress who might have known about it and the Clinton administration officials who knew about it, including Eric Holder, who was deputy attorney general."

Except perhaps for that last category -- a personnel inclusion amateurishly intended to intimidate Holder -- Sen. Alexander makes a convincing argument for the "sprawling" nature of an investigation. Yet what occurred was such a vast muddle -- as Alexander himself implies -- that ultimate responsibility can, ultimately, only be nailed from the top down, not the bottom up: to wit, the Bush administration officials who approved the interrogation techniques.

And as an investigative committee works its way up, it ultimately, as Dick Cheney so selflessly conceded on "Face the Nation," will land on the singular desk of George W. Bush, who "basically authorized" the stunningly illegal torture program. George may have again sought the solace of drink upon hearing that one.

Furthermore, Mr. Cheney said he may even be willing to testify to that -- in fact all of it -- under oath. To which one can only speculate that hell hath no fury like a Scooter-loving vice president scorned.

 

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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter




So the diminishing Repubs

So the diminishing Repubs want to blame the Dems... which is what they'll do because they are pathetically predictable.

That one won't stick. All it would prove is how spineless the Dems were at the time. (Still are?)

We know all that. (Yawn)

What it would prove is that, as Frank Rich said a couple weeks ago, the torture started when the reasons for invading Iraq just weren't panning out. When what needs to be true isn't true, you torture someone into saying it is.

Fit Cheney's profile?

Duh.

This one is right on

Absolutely correct. This is the reason the torture tapes were destroyed. The tapes would have revealed CIA interrogators trying to coerce information from the prisoners that would confirm Iraq's participation in terrorist attacks on America and support of and sympathy with bin Laden and Al Qaeda; none of which was true.

What Does It Matter, Dick...

...what Pelosi knew or didn't know if everything you did was open and above board and for the "greater good"? Rats on a sinking ship shoving one another overboard.

At least we are learning,

At least we are learning, bit by bit, some details of what happened. Too bad we can’t get a search warrant to look through dubya’s DVD collection for the missing torture videos, and to sift through the collection of severed body parts he perhaps keeps as mementos.

These guys did torture because they enjoyed it. Cheney misses the high, so he goes on TV talking torture and gets a buzz.

So much for the 'Rule of Law'

Let's start by saying one thing right out front: If there are Democrats that supported the policies of Bush/Cheney then they too should be subject to the penalties that would ensue from breaking the law. But that is not going to happen. The idea that this country upholds the concepts of equal justice, rule of law, society of laws not men is farcical. The latest hyperbolic statement after "We are looking forward...." is "Obama is going to restore confidence in America". Nothing could be more ludicrous. Face it, no one is going to be held accountable for the crimes of Bush/Cheney, least of all Bush or Cheney. Apparently the mighty US of A can't walk and chew gum at the same time. Let's see; 'we can't get lost looking backward' yet all criminal investigations and subsequent prosecutions ARE ALWAYS looking backward. What else..ah yes, we have an economic crisis to contend with so we can't waste time and energy investigating blatant criminal behavior, we need instead to assure the fat cats on Wall Street that business will go on as usual. Then the coup de grace, Obama will restore America to it's former moral standing. Right. What will happen is that the world will realize that Obama is a moral leader; but what happens in 4 or 8 years? Will we get another regressive right wing reactionary leader bent on building US hegemony at all costs? America will not regain it's moral standing simply because the current guy doesn't torture; the only way to regain our moral standing is to make the criminals accountable and that is not going to happen. Because we have an economic crisis. Because it is politically inconvenient. Because we are not able to deal with health care if we pursue justice. Because we can't deal with global warming if we are investigating criminals. Because the fragile American people couldn't handle it. Because the rule of law and equal justice before the law does not exist in America.

The nutcracker that cracks the Nut

...thinking only one move ahead at all times, in all cases. And that goal "is to dissuade Democrats from pursuing an inquiry that could lead to the prosecution of Bush administration officials... Clearly, Cheney is trying to SAVE HIS ASS; as is the rest of the party by making excuses, pointing fingers in other directions and rationalizing illogically. He very well knows what COULD happen. You've heard of corporate damage-control. Here's an example of prosecutorial-control.

I go along with all of the above, and--

I have to wonder about this---> Furthermore, Mr. Cheney said he may even be willing to testify to that -- in fact all of it -- under oath 'May be willing to testify' Cheney has this choice?? and "under oath" this choice too? He gave himself all kinds of power in that secure, secret, unlocatable dank location!?