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Right-wing propaganda, always a good laugh

THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

Some progressives, thinking folks, moderates and so forth find right-wing propaganda not only impermissibly misleading but downright infuriating. They get themselves all worked up over the latest reactionary fantasies designed to bamboozle the masses, but it seems to me that a touch more amusement and a tad less outrage would work better all around.

Don't take these retro-clowns so seriously is my advice. Because confronting their "arguments" with disgusted solemnity only lends a clownish credence to what they say, even though they always say it with the religious fervor of Jehovah's Witnesses and the ideological certainty of reeducated Pol Potists.

Doubtless those tactics -- that confident combined attitude -- by themselves may occasionally snare the witless victim, but I'm convinced that what snares even more witlessness is the often inflamed reaction on the left to the unembellished silliness of the right.

Hey, perhaps where there's smoke there's fire, the uninitiated may think -- otherwise why is the left so seemingly distressed?

What prompted these preliminary thoughts was a David Sirota column I read this morning, via Real Clear Politics. Granted, following a recent right-wing encounter Mr. Sirota wasn't reduced to carpet-chewing dimensions, but he edged close -- and I confess, for quite understandable reasons.

The encounter itself I'll let Sirota describe:

I was momentarily tongue-tied last week after running face-first into conservatives' newest (and most ridiculous) talking point: the one designed to stop Congress from passing an economic stimulus package.

During a Christmas Eve appearance on Fox News, I pointed out that most mainstream economists believe the government must boost the economy with deficit spending. That's when conservative pundit Monica Crowley said we should instead limit such spending because President Franklin Roosevelt's "massive government intervention actually prolonged the Great Depression." Fox News anchor Gregg Jarrett eagerly concurred, saying "historians pretty much agree on that."

Now that is funny stuff. And I suppose my "initial reaction" would have been strikingly similar to Sirota's: "paralysis … mouth-agape … deer-in-the-headlights."

Still, there is some stuff that comes out of the mouths of right-wing babes that is so patently ahistorical, only an explosion of guffaws is appropriate for public consumption.

But "they" beat Sirota to the punch. "Only after collecting myself did I say that such assertions about the New Deal were absurd. But then I was laughed at, as if it was hilarious to say that the New Deal did anything but exacerbate the Depression."

You see? The right has the tactic of amused, even riotously inspired ridicule down pat. And they've been pulling that stunt since the Sixties on a crowded plane of political-cultural issues.

The key, of course, is to distort history: First, frame the past in any way you like; second, treat any confrontation with it as laughable revisionism.

In short, give opponents the old "There you go again" treatment -- with a loud and sturdy cackle.

Do the Monica Crowleys of this world actually believe their own propaganda? As to that, naturally, I can't really say. What I can say, however, is that the best propaganda is that which is a sinisterly unknowable twist on the known historical truth.

Virtually anyone who has done any reading on the Great Depression knows that FDR's interventionism did not end it. But you will note that Ms. Crowley didn't say that. What she said instead was that FDR's actions "prolonged" the Great Depression.

Care to argue with that? Care to argue, that is, with a negative? You'll lose. Because in the right's historical world, all of its unexecuted prescriptions would have worked, you see -- because pure theory is a marvelously accommodating thing.

And that by itself is a simple enough proposition to throw in the face of right-wing propagandists, right after you're finished laughing.

 

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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter




Republicans always try to invent new realities

If you say something enough times, it must be true. The understand the basic concept of advertising and marketing: repetition, repetition, repetition. The reality doesn't matter - look how far Karl Rove got by putting out press releases that said the exact opposite of what they were doing. Unfortunately, it works with the masses that don't want to deal with news everyday and just take the word of the media.

Some things to consider about deficit spending

I will concede Carpenter's underlying point that no one can definitively state that the New Deal prolonged the depression. To state that, we would need a parallel universe where the New Deal didn't happen so that we could measure how long it took to get out of the depression. In the absense of this, the most we can say is that the New Deal didn't end the Depression--the massive deficit spending of WWII did. The US ran deficits of 40% GDP during that time. However, we purchased something useful with that spending. Our WWII debt purchased a massive industrial base that stimulated the consumption of every raw material America produced and trained millions of people in the art of industrial production. The workers who were building tanks and jeeps didn't go back to farms after the war... they stuck around and produced cars, televisions, appliances, etc. When they did go back to farms, they took industrial and factory techniques with them. Chickens, cow, corn, soybeans, etc. stopped being small family businesses and instead became agro businesses. Meanwhile, overseas, our military actions produced a new world order where former enemies became trade partners. We took our 40% GDP deficits and made investments that created the modern world. The biggest and best argument against further deficit spending today is that our economy is already soaking in 10 trillion dollars of federal deficit spending. This is an inarguable fact: We have already thrown trillions into our economy and it did stimulate spending and comsumption. The US consumer took part in this deficit spending by creating their own deficits using credit cards and mortgages to produce historically quite lavish lifestyles. Today, our homes average 2300 square feet. In 1970, the average home was 1400 square feet. Our homes got larger as families got smaller, so all that new space is mainly being filled with stuff... and many families rent storage lockers to hold the excess stuff that no longer fits under their roof. Some deficit spending is wise. Borrowing money to go to school might be a good investment. Borrowing to buy a house is generally a better use of your money than renting, even today. I borrowed to buy my car, since in my area a car is pretty much a requirement for having a job. The money I make driving to work more than offsets the debt of buying the car. Mindless deficit spending is unwise. Americans have built up their personal debt buying televisions, iPhones, and pizzas. The government deficit spending has been mostly unguided. We haven't been making long term investments with the $10 trillion, we've been paying interest, enriching bankers, maintaining military presence in all corners of the world, and funding staggering entitlement programs that send both Ross Perot and my grandmother social security checks each month. Ross is worth a few billion, my grandmother has to count pennies, but I'm guessing he gets a larger check. I am firmly opposed to a trillion dollar stimulus package passed within a few weeks of Obama's swearing in. If we act with haste in the interest of "doing something," this trillion is going to just be wasted, and will leave us in a weaker position than we were before. I am open, however, to a well thought out investment. If Obama announced that he was going to use the trillion in a three year plan to tranform the US into a single payer health care system so that US industries no longer had to price this cost into their products... I'd give it some thought. Show me some numbers. If I'm being asked to go into debt, I'd at least like to be informed what I'm buying. The reality is, alas, I won't be shown the numbers. The trillion will be spent and stuck onto the debt we're already piling on our children. We'll never get to rerun history and see what would have happened if we'd taken a wiser path. jamesmaxey.blogspot.com

Hannity's America sure ain't My America !

http://www.wisecountyissues.com Obama is NOT going to bankrupt THE COAL INDUSTRY. First they come to Appalachia bomb, blast, doze, destroy and decapitate everything in site, gouge ever damned dime and dollar out of our mountains, fill their greedy pockets, then Mr. Hannity, THE COAL INDUSTRY files for bankruptcy leaving no one culpable for the toxic environmental mess.

When you Lie all your life you Go Insane

These people have been lying for their entire lives. They have no concept of what the truth is. Really. They believe that what they SAY actually materializes into reality. It's what their guru Lee Atwater taught them.

Make up a scenario, stick to it until you bleed, and it will become reality. At least for YOU it will.

The problem is that the people who ascribe to this way of thinking don't realize there are millions outside of their practice of basing life on lies that are not part of their delusions.

Yes, Martha, there are people who live in reality. They live in the truth. They never lie. Like it or not they realize reality contains good and bad and they usually roll up their sleeves and work to make reality better. They do not sit on the sidelines and eschew people while they work to make their lives better.

We used to have a name for people who stand about putting other people down, sneering about it, lying all the time, destroying lives of anyone coming near. We called them BORES.

Not republicans, bores. But then the republicans adopted the "bore" as their party aspiration and changed the term to "republican". They haven't changed at all, they're still lying bores.

Oh yes, when you live your entire life lying and living in a fantasy world created by your pretense it is usually described as being insane. These people are insane.

When will the world at large begin to jettison insane people from ruling the rest of us? Now is not soon enough for me.

We have another one in the EU as I type.

The Jews Said That About the Nazis, Too - and Look What Happened

It is our refusal to take the Reich Wing seriously that got us into a thirty-year near-Permanent Republican Majority, and the shifting of the paradigm so we look like "whiners" and they look "rational", that got us into this mess in the first place. Mockery is not nearly enough - this sedition against the best interests of all Americans, rather than just the richest one percent, must be crushed, with extreme speed&savagery, before it flowers yet again.

Selah.

I agree

And we need a purge of the fascists on the Supreme Court, who have violated their oath to uphold the Constitution. We need the House to impeach them one at a time.

Who is "We"

Is it the public's failure to take the Reich Wing seriously or the fact that the media did take them seriously?

While the public still thought the Reich Wing a joke, our mainstream media took them seriously. Unfortunately the public was already conditioned to take the media seriously and did not recognize that the media had been compromised by corporate consolidation.

By the way, for a good laugh at W's expense, take a look at these Bushisms.

Quick Comedy the Best Weapon

Sirota fell into FOX's "straw-man" trap. Anyone who has observed FOX's so-called "fair and balanced" debates over time knows that they're very careful in vetting the liberal counter-point. Non-conservative, intelligent people need time to absorb the stupidity being "shoveled" at them. Voila! The FOX'ers have their liberal straw-man that they can tear to shreds. What's needed to combat them is someone with a sharp wit and very quick with a comeback. That's why you rarely if at all see any comedians (i.e. Bill Maher, Jon Stewart) as guests on these "fair and balanced" debates. Comedians don't go for the intellectual haymaker; they use the comic quick jab. And when the FOX'ers do get a tiger by the tail, they either go to the "sorry-we're-out-of-time" card, or, to quote Bill "falafel" O'Reilly: "CUT HIS MIKE!! CUT HIS MIKE!!"

That's the nature of bs

Do the Monica Crowleys of this world actually believe their own propaganda?

It doesn't really matter if the Monica Crowleys of this world believe their own propaganda, or more appropriately in this case bullsh*t.

What does matter is, a significant number of "Joes the Plumber" and other assorted Sarah Palin-skirt sniffers and Ted Nugent-fans believe the propaganda/bullsh*t enough to continue supporting a political ideology diametrically opposed to their own best economic self-interests: i.e. Milton Friedman-style "free market economics."

I'm sure we all know, or know of, some one who is a dues-paying-anti-union-union member or a unionized public employee who votes Republican because he just hates "big government?" Surely the Friedmanian "free-market" economics practiced in this, and much of the world, over the last twenty-odd years has done nothing to improve the economic lot of middle income earners, whether they are blue collar factory workers or white collar cubicle moles toiling in the obscurity of some governmental office or the financial industry.

Yet, until the advent of Web sites such as this one and television commentators like Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow or unless one has a predilection to dig up historical and/or factual evidence on one's own, there was little to nothing in the way of counterbalance to the kind of propaganda/bullsh*t practiced by the Monica Crowleys and FauxNewses of this world.

A passage from professor Harry Frankfurt's essay On Bullshit succinctly illustrates the mindset of the Monica Crowleys of this world as well as the editorial policy of FauxNews:

Both in lying and in telling the truth people are guided by their beliefs concerning the way things are. These guide them as they endeavor either to describe the world correctly or to describe it deceitfully. For this reason, telling lies does not tend to unfit a person for telling the truth in the same way that bullshitting tends to. Through excessive indulgence in the latter activity, which involves making assertions without paying attention to anything except what it suits one to say, a person's normal habit of attending to the ways things are may become attenuated or lost. Someone who lies and someone who tells the truth are playing on opposite sides, so to speak, in the same game. Each responds to the facts as he understands them, although the response of the one is guided by the authority of the truth, while the response of the other defies that authority and refuses to meet its demands. The bullshitter ignores these demands altogether. He does not reject the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it. He pays no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are(emphasis added.)

TO THE ROYALISTS WHO CLAIM FDR PROLONGED THE DEPRESSION

Dear Feudalists, Anybody who was around at the time, or anyone who has studied the era knows the ironic fact that the only faction in America who detested Roosevelt more than the Republicans, was the CPUSA; the Communist Party of The United States of America. The utterly ignorant Young Republican types who parrot the anti-FDR party line simply do not know what was going on back in that day. Read your history Waldo. After unemployment approaching 30% for over three years with Hoover sitting on his thumbs refusing to do anything or even appear to be doing anything, this country was ripe for the real thing: REVOLUTION....YES....RED! COMMUNIST ! REVOLUTION ! In fact, to this day, serious communists revile FDR for SAVING the capitalist system. But our Feudal friends don't bother studying the history of the country they purport to "love" so much.

Oh man, can I attest to

Oh man, can I attest to this. A few New Year's eves ago, as I recently reminisced, I made the mistake of getting in a semi-drunken political/economic "discussion" with a dude who had recently read Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto (or more likely, its Cliff's notes). I am no fan of the Friedman capitalist philosophy, so I used FDR and the New Deal as an example of my ideal. Before I knew what was happening, I was being called an "Imperialist Pig" and worse. Dead serious, the whack-job used those exact words. Then, when I noted ever-so-calmly that those were awfully big words that needed some backing up, this Karl Marx fan-boy thought I was pickin' a fight, and decided to threaten me with the broken end of a beer bottle. Needless to say there were no converts that night.