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Obama and Clinton seem to have reached a rather splendid little deal

THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

For a day or two, countervailing news stories kept hope alive.

Hillary Clinton was having second thoughts about playing second fiddle, said some reports, while others chronicled the Obama camp's pointed disgruntlement with the public drama of it all. So perhaps righteous anger would nix the nuptials. There was always hope.

But to have been so startled about the drama: I'm not sure what the Obama people were thinking, or even if they were thinking.

Hillary's first major policy charge -- healthcare -- rapidly disintegrated into such epic drama that management schools will study it for decades as a paradigm of cautionary tales. Then, Hillary's rise to the Senate was a byproduct of … drama. Then, her subsequent fall from greater potential power was the result of … drama.

Yet the Obama transitioners anticipated -- what? -- that Clintonian drama would suddenly be a thing of the past?

Presidential reputations generally begin intact. The warm, feel-good glow of another peaceful, democratic transition of power has nearly everyone saying and expecting nice things. The presidential object of the game, at that moment, is to retain as much of that public warmth and confidence as long as possible.

Which is to say, generally the very last thing a president-elect wants to do is darken the glow with controversy. Especially self-inflicted controversy. But that's what Team Obama did when it suggested to Hillary a highchair in the cabinet.

Private negotiations instantly became front-page news. Bill reverted to his role as chief circus barker while Hillary began appearing in public as Mrs. Coy. One-directional leaks became a torrent. The extortion game was on, just in case Mr. Obama was sewing second thoughts himself.

Yet that was not the worst of the self-inflicted drama.

Sure, it always has been, and always will be, about the Clintons, according to them and their narcotic followers. But what prompted the Obama camp's somewhat official, pre-preannouncement on Friday of Mrs. Clinton's appointment was the media's accumulating notice that the country happens to be going down the drain. Yet all everyone was talking about -- surprise -- was Hillary, Hillary, and Hillary, when they weren't talking about Bill, Bill, and Bill.

As the Washington Post's Richard Cohen finally wrote in disgust early yesterday: "We are supposed to be preoccupied with the question of whether Hillary Clinton will be secretary of state, but the truth is it doesn't much matter. Let her go to Foggy Bottom or let her remain in the Senate, the outcome will not move the financial markets one way or the other."

Veteran Clinton-booster Paul Krugman had also had about enough of Obama's self-inflicted irrelevancies, so he too paused just long enough yesterday to remind us of just how bad things are for the 282-million Clinton-unenthralled:

"We're in the midst of the worst stock market crash since the Great Depression: the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index has now fallen more than 50 percent from its peak…. Unemployment claims are surging, manufacturing production is plunging, interest rates on corporate bonds … are soaring…. The prospects for the economy look much grimmer now than they did as little as a week or two ago."

Plus, "panic has returned to the credit markets, yet no new rescue plan is in sight. And financial aid for the beleaguered auto industry is being stalled by a political standoff."

For Team Obama, the Clinton drama was becoming a major embarrassment and needless distraction of potential public-relations ruin. It was beginning to look like Obama had forgotten why he was elected: to fix the economy, stupid.

So he and his transition team released the news of the appointment at State, so they could proceed to refocus on the more critical appointment at Treasury.

But I'm happy to say I've already learned to live with the thought of Look-at-me Madame Secretary at Foggy Bottom. And it was the Associated Press that cheered me up:

A "senior adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity because the president-elect is not prepared to officially announce the nomination, said Obama believes Clinton would bring instant stature and credibility to U.S. diplomatic relations. Obama is convinced the advantages of Clinton serving far outweighed potential downsides, the adviser said."

One needs no magnifying glass to read between that senior adviser's lines: "Obama believes Clinton would bring instant stature and credibility to U.S. diplomatic relations." Not ingenuity.

If that, indeed, is Mrs. Clinton's understanding as well, then she accepts that she's at State only to buff up her resume for 2016. She's a Trophy Secretary -- a known-name entity to carry Obama's message to the world. That's all. She possessed no real foreign policy experience to begin with, but in eight years she can claim some; and well before that, she'll likely scurry off to Albany to rack up some executive experience, too.

In short, Hillary has every reason to lie low and suppress the drama for a while. It seems like a real deal has been cut between her and Obama: Just stay out of his way, go forth and say what she's told to say and in eight years she can claim credit for all his successes and deny any involvement in any failures -- just as she did to her husband on the campaign trail this year.

 

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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter




P.M. Carpenter speaks

P.M. Carpenter speaks volumes about the state of the Hillary selection for Sec. of State. What became of JFK's (paraphrased) 'ask not what what can be done for you"? We are told Hillary demurred whereas the standard is "if your country needs you, you heed the call". I don't want the country to be further bogged down in the Clinton baggage; she lost the election and Barack owes her nothing. I'm appalled at the bargaining that must have gone on to get her terms. Simply disgusted with the whole Clinton mess.

"We are told"?

By whom? Reporters citing anonymous sources. You have no idea if she has "demurred", you're just pissed off that Obama (ostensibly) chose her. And I hate to tell, you, but even if she chose not to take the position, serving as a US Senator is heeding the call to serve the country. Maybe you're getting "country" confused with "President" (or in this case "President-Elect"). Funny ..... a lot of the right-wingers had that problem during the past 8 years of the Bush administration. Either way, it's 100% Obama's decision, so if you have a problem with it, why don't you give him a call?

You're "appalled"? Yeah .... there's a lot of that going around the CDS crowd these days, along with bitterness, anger, resentment, depression, dillusionment, etc. To be honest, it's more than a little fun to watch. A little "icing on the cake", as it were.

Guess you'll just have to .............. what was that expression that the Clinton-haters were so fond of using after the primary?

Oh, yeah ..............


Get over it.

Leave Her Alone, Just Leave Her Alone!!!!! Hillary is Great!!!!!

Hillary Clinton is a great choice for SOS! The only "drama" is the one created by the media and Obama supporters that have forgotten the election is over. Lets not forget President Obama adopted almost ALL of Hillary's policies! Lets also not forget Hillary helped carry President Obama over the finish line by insisting her supporters support him while campaigning tirelessly for him and all of us should be grateful to her for that! And last but not least lets all not forget Hillary Clinton is one of the hardest working and most intelligent politicians we have today! President Obama is doing a wonderful job with all of his appointments and he will be a great President. Give the man a chance, fixing this mess is not instant pudding. We all need to support our new president for he has a very tough road ahead and very hard work ahead of him! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE LEAVE HILLARY ALONE! JUST LEAVE HER ALONE!

Enough Already Of The Why Did He Or Did He Not Appoint So & So

"Instead? "All eyes on the prize." "Which is?" "For starters, it's our ending the Iraq War plus health care for all." "Based on?" "Yes we can."

Hillary a great choice...

Pardon me, but I see no particular drama caused here by Hillary. This isn't a campaign any more, its the beginning of an administration based on the "team of rivals" idea. Remember, the Bush administration has been especially secretive with a tight inner circle who all agreed with each other publicly and where has that gotten us? Anyway, it's not Hillary's fault that the media goes ga-ga over her. It's to Obama's credit that he has chosen some of the best and the brightest from the Clinton administration for his team; the media has simply made too much of this fact. Part of being a great Secretary of State is bringing world-wide media attention to situations, problems and conditions around the world, and she'll do that. She also has extraordinary depth of understanding and ability to communicate complex issues. Finally, Obama's first big-time exposure was via his speeches which focused on "one America"...no red states and blue states, etc. It would have been terrible for him to start with not only a division between Democrats and Republicans, but also a new division between Obamaites and Clintonites. Bringing Clintonites in close and including them in powerful ways helps start out with a truly united Democratic party.

Not sure what ...

... you envision the SOS to be, but Hilliary is a great choice to fulfill what the job really is.

So she pads the resumé ......... doesn't everyone?

the splendid little deal

P.M., do you really think that the former First Lady's international experience visiting some 80 countries, and so forth, will leave her, and US, at a dis-advantage? Do you really think that Obama would have even considered her, at all, had he not believed she would work for US and him? By this selection for Sec. of State Obama sends a message to the world: the United States is STILL the United States. Not a fractured commercial entity doling out appointments and money to privatized entities. The World loves Bill Clinton. The World loves HIllary Clinton. Why would any intelligent person wish to NOT take advantage of this when we so urgently need a restoration of credibility and, yes, "love'? It matters. He needs her and it is much to his credit that he has courted her for this position and it is much to her credit if she accepts it. And, it is good for all of us.

Hillary is a GREAT choice!

Yes, of course she will be "buffing up her resume for 2016" for a presidential run. Are you surprised? Perhaps you missed this OTHER news: she also ran for president THIS past year, had 18 million supporters who would still like to see her become president, and the biggest criticism was she had no real foreign policy experience.

Two thumbs up for Obama for helping her, now, to take over the White House after he leaves. And I tip my hat to him, too, for showing struggling democracies around the world that after an election, the winning party COMES TOGETHER -- and tries to do a better job than the LOSERS.

These kind of whining essays, above, really put an unnecessary damper on a wonderful move by the prez-elect. In fact, IMO, these kind of essays, above, just plain stink. I am sorry to be so blunt. I think Obama made a great choice, and I am thrilled Hillary accepted.

What do you wish would have happened instead? That John McCain was offered the job?


independent florida voter - now registered as a Dem voter

Hillary is a good choice for Sec of State!

Hillary will do a great job as Secretary of State. Obama's probably not worried because he's a strong person with a vision of where the country should go. As for Paul Krugman's commentary, he stated that the current administration has quit working on the economic crisis. Krugman was just wondering how bad things will be in the two months that remain before Obama takes the oath of office while Bush fiddles.

no drama Obama?

This piece seems overly optimistic. The Clinton's have an agenda to be sure and they are more hawkish than Obama. Surely, when his Cinton staff and cabinet members are factored in the "deal" Obama made behind closed doors has a dark side that will come out in the light eventually... when it's too late to prevent it.

On The Right Track

The basic timeline presented here makes some sense - for Hillary. I can't say that having her take over State from Condi is such a good thing for the nation, however. Bill Richardson would have been a much better choice for State, and Hillary could have Health and Human Services to twist her cronies in the health insurance rackets for the better national health care she failed to deliver in 1993-4.

I understand the need for a team player at State, but when has Hillary ever displayed such behavior? Over the past eight years, we have had a self-effacing toady and a total incompetent at State, and look at what we got for it. State needs someone who already has an understanding of international affairs, and who also holds the respect of the world. Bill Richardson meets both qualifications.

But, Obama was given the job of Decider, and he will make the decisions. Many other comment threads on BuzzFlash are discussing the growing disillusionment that this fact represents, so I won't dwell on them here. I will instead close with a public expression of personal hope that Obama makes good decisions that benefit the entire nation. We have had enough of cronyism over the last thirty years. We can afford no more. Not even to assuage Hillary's deferred ambitions.

Take heart, PM..!

Take heart, PM! Big Ed Schultz, on his Thursday (11-20-08) radio show 1st hour monologue (podcast requires subscription)
http://wegoted.com/
made an observation that you, I, and the majority of "lefty/liberals" who are suspicious of Hillary have failed to see:
That Bill Clinton is BELOVED in the ARAB world. As Ed points out, no one can deny that President Bill Clinton worked his heart out in the last months of his presidency trying to bring about a permanent Mideast peace.
If you want a simple 'factoid' to support this observation, simply note: that Bill was giving one (yet another of) his $100,000 speeches.... to a KUWAITI or DUBAI trade group, on the day that Obama's selection of Hillary to be the next SecState was announced! Now Arab culture may be a tad "foreign" to you or me.... but I don't think even "foreign" trade groups are in the habit of donating $100,000 speaking fees to people they don't like or appreciate!
So take heart... there could be alot more upside potential, and depth, to an HRC as Secretary-State nomination, than we might have allowed for.

As usual, rationalize and spin anyway you want

... whatever it takes to make you feel better.

It's obvious that Obama's choice of Hillary as SOS has kicked your blood pressure up several notches, which means, of course ......

....... it was the right decision.

Exactly - P.M.

We surely must know by now, that with "The Clintons" nothing comes easy. It took a while to thoroughly vet/investigate Bill, and to finalize how to effectively muzzle him. It took a while for Hillary to decide if she wanted to be a "water carrier" for the Obama administration. The "drama" was in the mind of the media, which played the story to the hilt, and some people in the Hillary entourage, who want to remain relevant. No drama Obama knew exactly what he wanted, and was prepared to have the patience to get it. The entire cabinet will be selected on their ability to "hit the ground running." Great analysis.