Is It Take One of Stage Five for Hillary Clinton?

Robertjones says HE's the one "trying to bring reason" to this blog. He's the one who is "searching for truth," rather than "name calling." He's the one who cares about protecting the Democratic Party.

Yet in the same breath, he calls RedBaron a "right wing nut," and "part of the Republican noise machine trying to destroy progressive Websites and the Democratic Party." He repeatedly (and libelously) labels me a "gay old man" a pedophile, a convicted criminal.

I think the words of this John Bircher make it clear just who is the "bully and bigot."

Do you have any time in your preciously busy schedule to tell me the bill number where "Barrack voted to ban cluster bombs and Hillary didn't"?

Nor do you know anything about Obama or his voting record. For instance,

4/1/2008- Worries about One World Order and a North American Union have been "ginned up by the blogs and the Internet," Sen. Barack Obama told a Lancaster, Pennsylvania audience in a stump speech as he continued his tour through the battleground state. The Illinois senator also defended the recently re-authorized Patriot Act. Responding to a question from the audience, asking whether he was a member for the Council on Foreign Relations, a group many allege is leading a move toward one world government, Obama said: "I don’t know if I’m an official member. I’ve spoken there before. It basically is a forum where people talk about foreign policy. There is no official membership. I don’t have a card, or you know a special handshake or anything like that."

Vetta: You wrote:

" It would be better for the party and the nation if we could just get on with this thing and let Obama go after McSame. My opinion of Hillary, and to an even greater extent, Bill is declining as the nomination campaign goes on. I am not the only one who feels this way."

You got that RIGHT! Have you noticed how Hillarys 'game-plan' is to keep us so deluged with the CLINTONIAN MESSAGE that, in the last few months, there has been VIRTUALLY NOTHING discussed in terms of policy, goals, etc. She has kept her financially-challenged campaign in the news EVERYDAY FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS--with no more then HER MESSAGE being the ONLY issues discussed. Its appalling. And most have not even perceived it.

If the media simply did their damn job and reported true facts--you'd see that there are SO MANY who feel like you--that you'd think you were standing in a crowded closet while in the middle of the desert! HOW has she done this? You wrote a few items on how the Clintons have changed, well allow me to help you count the ways.........

1) Hillary & Bill, as well as all their surrogates, WHINING their way thru the whole primary process, incessantly, day, after day, after day. 2)Hillary constantly advocating John McInsane, while admonishing Obama. 3) Running a racially subliminal campaign in Penn. with the 'working-class' voters (code: WHITE voters). 4) Her arrogant, failed attempt to 'force' health-care reform. 5) She has conducted her campaign with unbridled hubris, secrecy and dishonesty. 6) Her recent,increasingly friendly relationship with FOX and the right. 7) Also, aligning herself with Richard Mellon Schaife---to get him to write unfavorable accounts of Obama. 8) Voted, as ALL know by now, for the war in Irag. 9) Supported NAFTA--then LIED about it. 10) In Bosnia, claimed to be ducking 'sniper-fire'---then lied about it. 11) Approved a campaign of 'kitchen-sink' strategy--then lied about it. 12) Mis-represented Obama's capabilities and HER presidential 'readiness'----then lied about it. 13) Mis-represented Obama's Illinois voting record--then lied about it. 14) At first, wouldn't involve herself in the Wright scandal--then raised it, a week later, to distract from her Bosnia fantasy. 15) Implied Obama was nothing but 'an empty suit'; and 'a speech'--then lied about it. 16) Insinuated only she (and McInsane) had crossed the mythical 'threshold test' for the presidency. 17) Fantasized (again) about her role in the Ireland Peace accords--then lied about her role. 17) Voted for the use of genocidal 'cluster-bombs' against Iraqi citizens. 18) Voted to give congressional authorization to Bush's insane war-mongering; an enabler. 19) Rec'd questionable campaign funding from munitions and the health-care industries (theres an oxymoron). 20) allowed, and stood by, as Bill played the race-card in primary after primary--while repping HER CAMPAIGN. 21) Allowed, and authorized, various minions (Ferraro, Johson, Rendell, Cuomo, et.al) to racially marginalize Obama. 22) Sent Black subordinate, Clever, out to keep the racial issue alive on the eve of the Penn. primary. 23) Has played the gender-card, (and tears), whenever it was expedient. 24) has horribly mis-managed millions of dollars of campaign funds--($1200.00 for exam, on dought-nuts) 25) Has been reluctant to pay outstanding debts in her campaign. 26) Has failed to pay the insurance premium on employees in her campaign. 27) Has garnered a reputation of 'get your money first, before you provide a service' on her campaign. 28) have 'hi-jacked' the campaign with inordinate demands to the DNC. 29) Petulantly stomped her feet and demanded two extra debates when she thought it served her purposes. 30) Dismissed her Hispanic campaign manager the day AFTER she secured the Hispanic vote in Texas. 31) Told Hispanic radio stations in Calif. that Richardson was her VP choice, thus, inciting the Hispanic vote there (also part of the tension now). 32) Violated her own word by petitioning and soliciting the delegates in Florida and Micjigan. 33) Broke her own word to withdraw from the race--if she lost Tx and/or Ohio---SHE LOST TEXAS. 34) Broke her own word NOT to approach or solicit Obama's committed delegates---then did just that. 35) Has falsely fostered the mathematically impossible notion--she still has a chance to win. 36) Her and Bills refusal to release the Clinton library donation records. 37) Her and Bills refusal to release CURRENT fiancial and TAX forms. 38) Her and Bills warm, and cozy, relationship with senior Bush's family. 39) Her and Bills illegal corporate financial dealings overseas. 40) Her and Bills campaign donations from Rupert Murdoch, Wal-Mart and others on the right. 41) Her lies about "35 years of experience" to be President. 42) Her bogus claims about her commitment to the Childrens Defense Fund--she worked there less than a year. 43) Her and Bills promotion of, and passing of, the disasterous Welfore to Work Law--that put thousands of FAMILIES homeless, and on the street. 44) The recent praise being lavished on her by the FOX news channel (at Obama/s expense), 45) The recent...............

Well, you get my point. Who else but a CLINTON, could have orchestrated ALL OF THE ABOVE, and still be viable with a rabid, vain-glorious bunch of self-serving sycopahants yelping and nipping at everyones heels to do as they say...or they'll bring down hell-fire and the whole temple upon us. Some of whom have no more connection to her then to merely see her elected as the first woman President---to the detriment of everything else. It would be sad---if it wasn't so Damn infuriating.

Rob, you make a good point when you say:

"Hillary's negative campaign tactics causing greater harm to herself than to Obama ...." and..." most damaging of all was Hillary's endorsement of John McCain"...

I agree; the former statement should cause some pause with any TRUE Progressive, but the blatant betrayal latent in the latter point should be the final damning evidence needed by ANY Democrat wondering if its plausible to continue supporting Hillary.

And theres the rub. Hillarys cabal seems to NEVER have grasped the notion that she has sold down the river---everything meaningful to them.

In addition to this snub, she has used them like three dollar whores; pimping their beliefs, and hopes, and dreams, to continue her maddening pursuit of impending battle with imaginary wind-mills. Hillary has never seemed to figure out that her obstinancy in pursuit of a BAD cause, is but, a thwarting impediment to Obama's constancy toward a GOOD one.

And look what it has spawned. Her followers think, that, NOW is their time, they have been repudiated and rebuked by 'the boys', and somehow, they are more 'entitled'; somehow, its their 'denied privilege'; that more is DUE them....then ALL the others who felt as steadfastly, and rightly, committed to Kucinich, and Edwards, and Richardson and Dodd...and all the rest. They too, had justification to stay.

After all, their candidates , more realistically, brought more substance, more credibility, and less hubris than Hillary. BUT THEY LOST. And when they did, these leaders didn't manipulate their followers, or the media; they did not virulently poison the body politic. They did not employ every deceitful, unrealistic, fallacious machination the lazy, contemptible, opportunistic media could gorge on to feed its bottomless appetite. Nor, did their followers come to some narcissistic conclusion that THEIR minuscule desires, somehow, out-weighed the collective hopes, values, and wishes of the majority.

In a wicked conspiracy, they (Hill & the media), have led these people to believe, 'it's good to continue to the convention', (In truth, we KNOW this is masochistic folly,----Time is the operative, destructive factor at play here. The longer we enable her delusions and allow them to play out--to a very foreseeable conclusion--that is, one of defeat; (the LESS time there will be to address REAL future battles); 'Its opened up the system to more voters', (these voters are not DENIED anything---the primaries are PRACTICE, the REAL GAME is in November, we should put up points---WHEN THEY TRULY COUNT)...all you want is a chance to take your shots IN THE REAL THING---NO ONE WILL BE DENIED THIS CHANCE!!; 'She has a RIGHT to continue on in the campaign', (By what "Right"? By what yard-stick? At what point does her crossing of the Rubicon NOT destroy all we have hoped for??....And push the party beyond a line we cannot readily recover from? JUST to serve the WHIMS of ONE VAIN, DELUDED, INDIVIDUAL! When did we buy into this warped (and truly un-democratic) philosophy?? "Party"--by connotation, means FOR the group; not one persons "rights", but the "rights"...OF US ALL. When does real LEADERSHIP become whats good FOR THE LEADER?? Isn't it suppose to be the other way around?? Why is this not considered---somehow, CONTRARY??----these are lies, and half-truths---placed in the atmosphere--BY THE COMPLIANT MEDIA...that, at best, serve ONLY to allow Hillary's scheme to reach fruition, i.e.,... of buying much-needed time to muddy up Obamas record, tarnish his image, and deplete his resources---as much as possible; this is not a mentality of serving the constructs of the masses, but rather, using mendacity to hasten the destruction of its hopes and dreams, at WORST, I shudder to think what lies behind the Wizards curtain and what true Machiavellian schemes this all portends. Oz never gave anything to the scare-crow....that he didn't already have! We should be as equally willing to use ours as well, and read between the lines of her words and deeds. Shes doing all this at the behest of, and subject to, those, behind the scenes 'hidden-handlers' of hers, who want a return on their investments and absolutely NEED her to win----at all cost.

Hillarys followers DESPERATELY need to wake up, and realize they have danced the dance, been "the belle of the ball"--who sent the other debutants home--broken and defeated, but now, the PARTY'S OVER, the clock has struck twelve, the slipper is no longer glass, and its time to PAY THE BAND; but what have we found out about the 'Belle' of the Ball?

Alas, her pockets are as empty as her soul......and we're left holding the bill.

And not just backfiring in the Pennsylvania and national polls. The more slime she threw, the more Superdelegates have come out to endorse Obama.

Talk about being hoisted upon one's own petard! I predict that Hillary "Petard" Clinton's Presidential campaign will long be used as a teaching example of what primary candidates most not do.

As someone who watched the way she tragically bungled health care reform in the 1990s, I shouldn't have been so surprised to see her primary campaign crumble the way it did.

Although she said she learned a lot from the health care reform debacle, she didn't. Many of her faults then -- her unbridled arrogance, her Dick Cheney-like dependence on secrecy, her shameless dishonesty, and her stubborn Bush-like refusal to admit a mistake -- have done her in again.

Many of her supporters share some of these flaws. They're looking to blame anyone but Hillary for her failing. They're only fooling themselves.