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Hillary Clinton's Squandered Bid: Part II

THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

Yesterday, in a brief survey of what I believe political historians will chronicle as the chief cause of Hillary Clinton's now-failing presidential bid, I wrote: "After seven years of vastly experienced presidential lying, conniving, weaseling, obfuscating, twisting, manipulating and swindling, the last thing most voters wanted was more Washington experience."

What I first wrote, but then deferred to another day -- like today, was, "the last thing most voters wanted was more of the same Washington experience."

I deferred those three, excised little words because they were post-genesis, so to speak, to her ultimately failing bid. In other words, in this election cycle any candidate's emphasis on experience was almost certain to result in a sum loss of voter appeal. It made little difference whether Hillary's was similar or unsimilar to George W. Bush's. "Experience" itself -- stripped of all external judgment, favorable or unfavorable, about that experience -- was a long-term and almost surefire buzz-kill from the get-go, as long as some other candidate had something else to offer.

But that was then, and this is now. And now, in these waning primary days that nevertheless hold some potential, however slim, for a Hillary comeback, external judgments about the "sameness" of Hillary's experience make all the difference indeed.

For the still-undecided, Democratic primary voter is now faced with a choice that comes down to this: Do I prefer the candidate who is capable of tolerantly listening to the occasional abhorrently phrased view? Or shall I go with the candidate who offers every indication of nailing down another, at-minimum four years of manipulation, twisting and swindling?

Forget for the moment, if you can, gentle voter, the second candidate's almost laughably swindling explanation of her Iraq war vote, which is now costing you and the families of 4,000 needlessly dead Americans anywhere from one to three trillion dollars. Just put that out of your mind, set it aside as a little slip-up, a bit of mere negligent oversight. We all make mistakes, even when we mean to.

But as you set that aside, there are still those other indications of what could come. And like her war-vote explanation, those indications are at best unsettling when you consider the vast expanse that separates them from honest reality -- that removes them even one inch from the realm of the Bushlike manipulated, the twisted, the downright swindling.

Much has been written, for instance, about the chasm that lies between Hillary's overall and boastful claims to foreign policy experience and the actual, factual record. There's no need to press her on this matter, as is needed with respect to Iraq. Here, she eagerly and freely offers up case after case of extensive and personal involvement in our foreign affairs of the 1990s.

But the reality of it? As I said, so much has already been journalistically vetted and reviewed -- and panned -- there's no need to resurvey it all here. Yet one instance does merit repeating at some length, because the immense chasm is almost breathtaking in its panoramic wonder.

This, from "Fact Checker" Michael Dobbs of the Washington Post:

Hillary Clinton has been regaling supporters on the campaign trail with hair-raising tales of a trip she made to Bosnia in March 1996. In her retelling, she was sent to places that her husband, President Clinton, could not go because they were "too dangerous." When her account was challenged by one of her traveling companions, the comedian Sinbad, she upped the ante and injected even more drama into the story. In a speech earlier this week, she talked about "landing under sniper fire" and running for safety with "our heads down."

Numerous reporters ... covered her trip. A review of nearly 100 news accounts of her visit shows that not a single newspaper or television station reported any security threat to the First Lady....

Far from running to an airport building with their heads down, Clinton and her party were greeted on the tarmac by smiling U.S. and Bosnian officials. An eight-year-old Moslem girl, Emina Bicakcic, read a poem in English. An Associated Press photograph of the greeting ceremony ... shows a smiling Clinton bending down to receive a kiss.... [CBS News] footage shows Clinton walking calmly out of the back of the C-17 military transport plane that brought her from Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany.

The affair -- from original reality, to told version, to corrected version --is borderline comical in its bizarre surreality, and a definite candidate for one of those 527 ads in the general election. But it is, as well, disturbingly and quite unfunny.

After "35 years of experience" Hillary had to know that someone would check her story. Yet did that prevent her audience manipulation, her twisting of events, the tale's swindling core? Not a bit. She just blustered ahead and bellowed whatever she thought people would buy -- and they would be awed. She trusted, that is, in the electorate's unremitting gullibility and common ignorance of the truth.

Remind you of anyone currently in power? Care to go through that same experience again?

If Hillary had always fought the good fight -- whether as First Lady or U.S. Senator -- and then simply told the simple truth about it, her experience might have been a plus. But this year is an unfavorable one for the wholesale market of manipulation and swindling. Too many people were already primed to reject it.

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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter


Mendacity, thy name is Hillary!

The Mighty Wurlitzer is getting a bit of a chuckle over this, but does not want to totally knock the Hildabeast out of the race as they are still convinced (rightfully so) that she would make it easier to hand the office to McSame. In reality, this should be the irrefutable proof of her mendacity, and as such, finally force her out of the race.

Will president John McCain represent change?

Barack Obama is all but certain to be hugely defeated by John McCain in the general election. Yet Obama is not being blamed for "single-handedly destroying the Democratic Party". Hillary once had a slim chance of winning the general, but not now. There never has been even the slightest possibility that Barack Obama could win the presidency of the United States in 2008. Now, no Democrat can win, thanks to the tactics of BOTH campaigns in the knock-down-drag-out fight between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Most of you seem to be under the strong delusion that Obama will become president if he wins the nomination. It is time to put aside efforts to demonize Hillary Clinton AND stop trying to elevate Obama to sainthood. (There is still much to come out about Obama. Do you think the Wright stuff is all there is?)

Boy, are you wrong

Just plain wrong.

Hillary really needs a vacation

Hillary needs to go, NOW. Send her to Amsterdam and take her to a "bar". She seriously needs relax and leave the rest of us alone. It's an embarrassment. Why would any Dem still vote for her? It's not like Bill brought about a golden age. If he had W would have never been elected.

I suspect that, like Bush,

I suspect that, like Bush, Hillary Clinton isn't quite bright enough to figure out what she can get away with.

Hillary's whopper film already available

The Jed Report is pleased to release the trailer for "Hillary in Tuzla" to the public. Please enjoy it at your own risk, and spread it wide and http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Hillary_in_Tuzla_The_Tale_of_Bosnian_Sniper_Fire_TRAILER

OMG

Now what's she going to say? Caught in her own web of lies by network news video cameras, no less. Wonder if this will show up on MSM? Not holding my breath, but this is too big for even MSM to ignore. We know Faux News will eat it up.

I think it could gain traction

I heard Russert mention it this morning and you can bet the house Olberman will do a segment on it tomorrow. This wasn't just a lie; this was a gargantuan whopper. It reminds me of the guys who used to say they saw "action" in Vietnam when they were actually stationed in Germany or somewhere far from the front lines, a lie that could and should shame a person for years. I think Obama's surrogates should hammer her with this everyday this week to further the "lack-of-candor" meme. Honestly, now I'm beginning to believe that not only is Hillary a complete narcissist, but that she is suffering from sleep-deprived psychosis as well. I'm truly concerned for her mental health at this point.

I'm tired of her lies

I have watched Hillary Clinton stand there and lie in her stump speeches too many times. And she's lying to the people who don't sit at their computers and read blogs, or scour the Internet for news from all kinds of sources, or even watch very much politics on TV. They take her at her word. Look at Ohio -- anyone who searched out the facts would have known that she pushed for NAFTA, but she won Ohio on her lies (that one and the lie about Obama contacting the Canadians). She's done so many things that should disqualify anyone from being president, and her latest one is to diss a sitting governor (Richardson), calling him "Judas" and saying he's irrelevant. Is this how she would treat foreign leaders and their countries, in the same manner she treated states she didn't win? "Not important. Irrelevant. You're a Judas if you disagree with us." The Clintons -- both of them -- have irreparably damaged their reputations, in my view. At a time when we look for a leader who will rise above the fray, be the voice of reason and unite people, Bill and Hillary Clinton have done exactly the opposite. They have caused havoc, pulled everyone down into the muck with them, been the most unreasonable and further divided everyone. It's time for the voters to demand that the so-called superdelegates put an end to this and stand behind the frontrunner. I feel bruised and bloodied; every time I hear from Hillary, Bill and their mouthpieces Mark Penn and Howard Wolfson, I feel like I have to take a shower. The GOP is laughing and could guffaw their way to the White House again. That will be the Clinton's legacy. And this country and we the people will suffer tremendously for it.

I am tired of her lies

That makes two of us. Did you here the one about her arriving on first day at college in a beat volkswagon with a mattress tied on the top. Give me a break! She's from well to doville, Park Ridge, Illinois. And furthermore, who the hell brings their own mattress to a dorm. Sheets, towels, yeah but a mattress. This chick plya fast and lose with the truth!

I'd Like to 2nd that!!

When you look at how close her supposed "inevitability" came to putting her in the White House; and how now, in the crucible of a REAL contest, we actually get to see, not only what the Republicans have said about her for almost two decades----but a REAL look at the lack of character and principles she would have brought to the Presidency. Especially when you think of how we've ALREADY seen it almost irretrievably damaged in the last 7 years......

I have to say, without ever setting foot in the White House, or winning anything at all,(as of yet)---we all owe Obama a 'hearty thank you'---if nothing else----for blocking this despicable liar from occupying it.

Also, have you noticed the 'messiah' message coming out of her camp now? They seem to feel Richardson was a 'Judas" who has somehow 'betrayed' their 'anointed one'......you talk about ENTITLEMENT and ARROGANCE. sheesh!!

She's probab destroyed the Democratic Party, and possibly the US

After 7 years of horror, in which almost everything went wrong, Mrs. Bill Clinton's ego told her that what the American people needed was someone who had tea and cookies in many places around the world. We will have gone from an almost guaranteed Democratic President to only a 50% chance of one because of her.

Hillary's whopper

Tim Russert discussed this on Meet the Press this morning. The whole thing makes Clinton look foolish. The super delegates should be worried because in the general election the Republicans will swift boat Hillary with this information. She said she wouldn't be swift boated and then proceeds to give this gift to the Republicans all neatly tied up with a bow on it! I can see the ads pitting John McCain as the war hero against Clinton embellishing a trip to Bosnia. She has no one to blame but herself. The various blogs are talking about it and are making her into a laughing stock.

Hillary and Leo--a match made in heaven

PM--I believe you have hit upon something completely profound about Hillary's political maturation. It may be reasonably said that Leo Strauss is the father of the neoconservative movement, and in that movement is the the core belief that the government can shape its own reality and that the people will then buy into it. To acheive that strategic vision requires tactical lies, lies, and more lies, sometimes big, sometimes small, but all are deciminated by the government to its people for the purpose of shaping a particular reality. All reasonable, logical people (the reality-based community) have been properly disgusted by these neocon tactics over the last seven years and also startled to the core at how many people can be manipulated so easily. But the one thing we know we do want now--is a new president who will completely disavow this type of lying, "reality-making" government and bring us back to a logical, scientific, reason-based way of tackling problems which repects the intelligence of the people. Hillary's so-called gaffe about her trip to Bosbia in the age of the Internet is one of the most brazen attempts by a leading democrat to spin reality on its head that I've ever witnessed. Leo Strauss would be very proud. For I believe that we now know what Hillary's "35 years" of experince has taught her, and more particularly the last seven years--is that she has completely bought in to one of the neoconservative movement's core principles--that government can and should shape its own reality by lying consistently to its people. Something to consider when casting your vote.

I think you've hit it, pgbowden - it's bugged me for a while

Hillary and the DLC are ALL Neocons, at bottom. That's why I've never had anything but contempt for the Clintons (though okay, I felt sorry for Bill getting impeached for lying about a BLOWJOB!), the Gores (while Al's currently riding high w/his Green stance, let's not forget in the Eighties he wound his bipolar wife Tipper up and sent her out to censor the music industry!!), and most of all Joe "Quisling" Lieberman (the token Dem who WANTED Clinton impeached, and tried censoring the videogame industry - what a traitor to free expression he is!!!).

Hillary Clinton

This woman is evil, she does not do a thing if it does not have any value to her. Disgraced with her husband who even was almost removed from office by force, she continue to put people to sleep, some simply because she is a woman, to others , simply they are uneducated and do not read and watch the news, or the low IQ ones as Bush who claimed before the primary that she will be the nominee. Lie after lie, she never stops nor her husband the draft dodger who ran away to England because of his love of country, these people have no shame, and will say & do anything to get elected as a team, they belong more on a wrestling circuit, they will put one hell of show. Regardless how knifing she is, Obama appears to be the Teflon Kid , nothing seems to stick to him, and surely not by luck, but for his mild manners and intelligence. I hope she will be brought down hard, so will even quit her job at the senate, as she will be too old to contemplate another run in 8 years. I saw Ferraro how she looks and trust me no one would vote for her for a janitor let alone a president.

Handing it to the Republicans -- on a silver platter

While the Democratic Party is engaged in tearing itself apart, it is handing the Presidency to John McCain on a silver platter. Mr. McCain is under the media radar with his "is it Shia or Sunni?" remarks. He's under the news media radar on just about anything that might impact him in a negative way. This is happening because covering the Democratic race is much more interesting to the American people. (Kind of like covering the Brittany and K-fed custody battle.) And, the Democrat leadership is complicit in the idiocy, by allowing it to continue. Bill Clinton is allowed to roam the country, and say the most outrageous things, regarding the race of his wife's opponent, and now questioning the patriotism of his wife's opponent. And, the media loves the food fight. And John McCain, not being able to tell Shia from Sunni (from Al Queda for gosh sake) stays under the radar. Mrs. Clinton stretches the truth about a trip to Bosnia. Her credibility is more and more called into question. However, like the Pink Bunny, she goes on and on and on. Is she deliberately trying to assure a Republican win in November? We don't know. Is she doing everything possible to see that it happens? That she is, is undeniable.

Maybe it's not so bad

Let's wait and see what comes out of Pennsylvania & Indiana. Even if Obama LOSES there, it won't be so decisive that Clinton could possibly be back in contention. Maybe she'll quit the race, then. I think even she would agree that letting things grind out to the end will only lead to her defeat at the convention, anyway. In the meantime, the only thing Obama has to do is to increase his exposure to the areas in Pa. outside of Philadelphia & Pittsburg and the rural areas of Indiana. The more people see and hear him, the more they like him. He draws huge crowds wherever he goes. The people are ready for change-for real-this time.

It could get worse - maybe

I think a "wait and see" might be ok. But, I think the "wait and see" should not be with Pennsylvania and Indiana. That would give the media at least five more weeks of Demo-Drama to chew up, and spit out. I think the perfect "Wait and See" moment would be when Texas, on March 29th, (six days hence), releases the results of its caucus votes. Mrs. Clinton, and her husband clearly stated "If she doesn't win TEXAS and Ohio" she can't win the nomination." She should keep her word, if she doesn't win the most delegates from Texas. She should end her campaign. Sooner - rather than later.

It'll be O.K.---cause Spring is in the air.....

And that means: 'out with the old and in with the new'. This season will be analogous to Hillarys political career. "Wait and see" is not a bad proposition. I agree with your assessment of the 29th; it helps in alerting many in the populace that, contrary to popular belief:---SHE DID NOT WIN TEXAS !!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/7/11339/50182/559/471347 and there is skepticism concerning Ohio: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-loeb/did-clinton-win-ohio-on-a_b_90254.html even N.H.: http://blogs.citypages.com/gop/2008/01/new_hampshire_p.php and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM

I don't know how many friends I've had to expose to this. But more importantly, it hopefully will make some realize that they have been manipulated by the media with misleading information.

With essentially 4-5 weeks to burn and the Demo slug-fest the top story--the media will finally turn on her and eat their own; (its all about the drama!). You have to keep in mind---they've ALREADY known this---it was Hillary's campaign that asked them and the DNC to hold off on reporting Texas results until after Pennsylvania. Now, who else besides the Clintons could have pulled that off? See: http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/clinton-delay-the-delegate-cou.html

It will be interesting to see how they dance around their own statements that she HAD to win BOTH---to remain viable. But Spring does not bode well for her----thank God!

Edwards (I believe) is considering supporting Hillary--but the fact that he has not been forth-coming leads me to believe he can't. (This MAY have been what ALL THAT WHISPERING was about during the debates)--Hillary was hedging ALL bets--even THEN! He's probably weighed the factors, i.e., IF Hillary wins--he'll probably supplant Evan Bayh for the ceremonial VP slot; then, its wait 4 to 8 years. If she loses---he knows HER core base of 'working class' whites finds him equally appealing--and is his for the taking in 4 years. BUT, if he wants to be a player NOW---he'll HAVE to support Obama. I don't think much of his core base (same as Hillarys) will defect toward Obama, now that Hillary has polluted THAT well; so to induce him to part with his 20-30 delegates, I think Obama will offer him the Attorney General slot (which is a better fit for him).

Bill Clintons recent anti-Democratic comments (again) will start wearing thin on already fatiqued super-delegates who are tired of this constant alignment of Hillary w/McInsane. (As am I). See: http://pundits.thehill.com/2008/03/17/hillarys-plan-to-elect-mccain-and-a-right-wing-supreme-court/ thus, it becomes even more obvious (even to the most faithful) that the Clintons only recourse is to bloody up Barack as much as possible: http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/13400

Expect a block of more courageous super-delegates to follow Richardson's lead (and admonition) to make some dramatic declaration BEFORE Pennsylvania to blunt its full impact. There are those within the party who have longed for the demise of the Clinton reign---but were/are afraid to risk its wrath, should they win.

In addition, the super-delegates cannot afford to let Hillary make too much hay out of Pa., because they're looking at the 'coat-tail' factor, with Obama already demonstrating a proclivity to be able to do so, whereas, Hillary--with only a 47% or so--rating across the nation has not shown any indication she has the same capability. They CANNOT afford to let her gain a new, long-term, albeit, futile (and destructive), momentum coming out of Pa. This is what Richardsons admonishment was concerning. Also, in addition to her own dwindling campaign funds, I don't think Hillary OR Bill is too enthused with the idea of people poring over their tax returns next month. ESPECIALLY, given the way heavily redacted memos have generated serious credibility issues with Hill.

Further, she'll win BIG in Pennsylvania will little or no real impact on the delegate count. If Obama pulls off a win in neighboring Indiana (and he's favored to win N. Carolina), their combined 218 delegates will trump the 158 Pa. delegates. (He'll win more pronouncely than she). So whats the significance with Pa.?---It may finally bring to light that its ONLY in these old, Democratic 'machine' cities that she has any real traction! (NY, LA, Boston, Phillie, etc.) The media keeps erroneously trying to portray it as a white, 'middle-america', rural base that Hillary appeals to most---NOT SO! Obama was appealing to this crowd (Iowa)--'til Hillary went racial! Furthermore, even now, shes NOT capturing the groups thats composing the partys future (youth, well-educated, Blacks, Indies, cross-over Repubs, etc.).

Much has been made about the Richardson endorsement, but a closer scrutinization of Hillarys recent nod by Murtha---is more revealing WITHIN the party. Murtha is still miffed by Pelosi's and Rahm's (Emmanuel,D-IL) support of Steny Hoyer for the majority leader slot he felt she should have done more to help him acquire it. His support is more of a reaction to THEM than Obama. WHY would he feel THEY'RE supporting Obama?

If one tracks Pelosi's comments in the last month or so, she has stated, first, the 'dream team' ticket was NOT likely; then, all but declared it 'impossible'---due to comments coming from the CLINTON camp. Next, she sent word to the party that COMMITTED delegates would do well to stay with their commitments, thus, benefiting Obama (no small factor); finally, she all but killed the Florida and Michigan make-overs, to Hillarys detriment. Behind the scenes, its no secret whom she prefers, but will not declare, because of the likelihood of having to broker this at the convention.(less and less likelihood of this tho). Hence, Murtha's decision to support Hillary.

Next, the increasing defection toward truth that is going on in parts of the media, who (besides her own campaign), has been the single, biggest beneficiary (ratings-wise) of all the mis-leading lies being told of Demos pugnacity. With Politico now expressing what P.M., (and others here), have been saying for weeks now, i.e., SHE CANNOT WIN MATHEMATICALLY! See: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/22/15416/3084/808/482277

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149.html however, this has already been reported (and known): http://www.newsweek.com/id/118240/output/print also see:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5068396

Lastly, the GORE factor---I think if all else fails, and Hillary goes nuclear and drives the Democratic bus into the pit, Gore, Carter, Hart, Kennedy and the rest, will FINALLY put this fiasco to bed. Hillary/Bill will be thwarted, at long last, at all turns----everyone sees it but her. Unfortunately for us. In light of all the above, my fearless prediction is she has less than two weeks surviving in her campaign. Soooo......soon, faithful ones, all this will be but a bitter memory (like last winter) and...like Spring,....Hope WILL SPRING.....eternal.

Excellent Post

Your post is a real tour de force. I appreciate the way you--as the teachers used to admonish us to do--"show your work." Great analysis, etc...

Is she being driven to mental illness?

The manner in which she stands and embellishes this story that everyone already knows is untrue, and dismisses Sinbad's claims as "he's a comedian"..... I believe she is cracking up.

Please, someone, send her home.