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CA Supreme Court Ruling on Prop 8 Allows for Justice Down the Road

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS
by Chad Rubel

The decision was expected to go the way it did. Legal issues of constitutionality were at stake, whether or not a constitutional revision was at stake, and whether or not marriage was an inalienable right. The human factor was taken out of the equation -- the ruling didn't take into account the extensive rally in San Francisco this morning, gathering to await the decision. The interest in this particular ruling was enough to make it difficult to reach the official Web site that displayed the verdict.

The California Supreme Court in a 6-1 decision upheld Proposition 8 in a much-anticipated decision this morning. The court ruled that the 18,000 gay and lesbian couples who got married before the measure went into effect remain married.

Those who felt that Proposition 8 was the right thing to do will find plenty to celebrate in California today. The ruling said that stripping rights away from citizens could be done by a majority vote at the polls. But this group lost out on its key provision -- the sentence that Proposition 8 introduced into the California state constitution -- "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."

Oh, the sentence is in the state constitution, and the court kept it in there with this decision. But there are 18,000 couples in the state who get to keep that sentence from ever being completely valid.

And what those people may find out is that those same rights can be placed back into law by a simple majority vote at the polls, which would sharply add on to the 18,000 couples left standing.

Equality California is already vowing to restore marriage via the Ballot Box in 2010.

Those who were against Proposition 8 were understandably angry and sad at today's court ruling. They strongly disagree with the court's findings that as Justice Ronald M. George, writing for the majority, put it that Proposition 8 did "not entirely repeal or abrogate" same-sex couples' right to privacy and due process or the "constitutional right of same-sex couples to 'choose one's life partner and enter with that person into a committed, officially recognized, and protected family relationship.'

As for whether rights can be voted away, the court felt marriage wasn't a sufficient enough right.

The court's only Democratic appointee, Justice Carlos R. Moreno, said in the lone dissent, that "It weakens the status of our state Constitution as a bulwark of fundamental rights for minorities protected from the will of the majority."

The 6-1 decision could be seen as a defeat for gay marriage. But the legal nuances aren't even close to how things were 5, 10, 20, or 30 years ago. The snowball is headed down the mountain. Decisions such as this are more like trees that can slow down the momentum, but can't stop it.

We have seen legislators and courts in a strictly neutral situation decide that equality did mean allowing for gay marriage. California's setup is a little unusual, yet the voters of that state know full well that if they pass a law nullifying the impact of Proposition 8, the law will be completely upheld by this same Supreme Court. This may not be the progress that some want right this second, but it is progress toward a more equal union.

PDF of the CA Supreme Court's decision

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS




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Referendum Activitism

It's the conservatives' way to make law, without the need of the legislature. No judicial activism here! Then get it to the courts to make ruling. Voila! Conservative laws that bypass the will of the legislature. Why pay to have a legislature in California? Didn't it pass a gay marriage law a few years back that Arnold vetoed, saying he wanted the courts to decide, in effect, not the legislature? Stop with changing the rules of the game and the goalposts already!

When Will I be Able to Marry?

Too many opponents of Prop 8 cast it as strictly a gay rights issue. It is not. You people would be only too happy to have the state constitution state that any 2 adults should be able to marry:1 woman and 1 man, 2 women, or 2 men. What about those of us who believe that MORE than 2 consenting adults should be allowed to marry? Why are we left out in the cold? Because it's not socially acceptable? The funny thing is, you people are so caught up in the feeling of moral superiority that you can't yet see that deep down, opponents and proponents of Prop 8 are willing to let a minority get their rights trampled on. Both sides are the same: they want to deny rights to a disfavored group. I realize my lifestyle isn't understood or tolerated by very many people, but why should you have the right to deny marriage to a loving group of 3 people? Hypocrites. Although I voted against 8, I'm glad it passed. I was fed up with it being painted as a Gay Rights issue.

Left-handed

I'm left-handed. The California initiative system would allow the right-handed majority to deny my rights, apparently. One more reason never to spend money in California.

CA Supremes Are Wimps!

Republican Chief Justice Ronald George has just demonstrated that Democratic officials are not the only ones lacking in spinal fortitude.

George's original finding overturning the ban on gay marriage as unconstitutional was the correct one. Clearly, Mormon money and Republican Party political pressure caused him to rethink his ruling and its effects on his legal future, as he has to remember California removing Rose Bird and other justices over their unpopular opposition to the imposition of the death penalty in order to make room for him on the bench. If mob rule trumping the law could be done to her, so it could be to him, and he isn't about to foment a recall.

Please, Repubs, try to defend the false premise that "conservative" judges are not activists - I could use something humorous to chuckle about.

California majority stupidity

I might suggest that the voters of California take on a new referendum: say it is illegal for catholics to hold any elected office or to be employed by the state or any county or subdivision thereof; or how about it is illegal for members of the lat(t)er day saints to go door to door and tell fairy tales..... What else can we get rid of, oh how about anyone who voted in a previous election could not vote in the next two elections, providing a fair and balanced approach to insanity. Just a thought

Good Call!

Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean you don't have the right to say it. That's what democracy is and I won't let my biases cloud that fact. Well, if the opponents want to have their way, they can file it in courts through a motion for reconsideration. I have enough faith in the system to know that the ideologies behind the law will prevail.

Be Careful What You Wish For!

If you lived in California, you would know that what you (humorously, I assume) propose is actually a commonly expressed opinion. The too-frequent feeling is that if it's popular with the majority, it doesn't matter that the Constitution might not agree, for popularity should overrule any existing law and the protection of the minority be damned. It's to be The Triumph of the Popular Will or bust!

Be careful what you wish for!!

neoconned - I also lived in the land of the great bear, but have moved on, though not due to the insanity there, hell I live in arian nation 2 (idaho). I hate to see what the referendum rule by majority has done to California, it has effectively made it the land of "never to be". As you pointed out, the courts are there to protect the minority from the majority. I meant my statements in jest, but certainly targeted at the Mormon and Catholic wing because they to are also a potential victim (though I am not too concerned with their demise) I am seriously saddened by todays ruling as I am saddened by what constitutes debate in this once land of great potential. Our slope is beyond slippery, and I dare say that we may not be able to right the ship.

With all California'a problems...

a simple majority can change the constitution to correct specific situations. What are liberals going to do about the budget? Will majority rule or will they still need a super majority to pass giving the Republican minority a voice? Conservatives might regret this Prop 8 ruling.