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Denver: In Curious Case, "Authorities" Inexplicably Downplay Obama Assassination Threat by Armed and Ready Meth Heads.

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS
by Meg White

Though one of them is on tape saying he told federal officials his friend planned on assassinating Sen. Barack Obama with a high-powered rifle during the presidential nominee's acceptance speech in Denver this evening, the three men arrested Sunday will not be charged with threatening an assassination.

The plot began to unfurl Sunday morning after a routine traffic stop of Tharin Gartrell, who was found to have weapons, drugs, and other illegal materials in the rented vehicle he was driving. Gartrell then led authorities to hotel rooms where two others implicated in the plot, Shawn Robert Adolf and Nathan Johnson, were also arrested.

After what they call an "intensive" investigation lasting only a couple of days, the FBI and Secret Service say there is no real threat to Obama, and that no related charges will be brought in the case. U.S. Attorney Troy Eid seemed to say that because the men were on drugs, they shouldn't be taken as a serious threat:

"From a legal standpoint, the law recognizes a difference between a true threat and the racist rantings of drug abusers."

So just because these people were drug users means they couldn't possibly have carried out a killing? Seems to me, meth users kill a lot of people. Eid admitted that judgment is impaired in meth users.

"A bunch of meth heads get together, we don't know why they do what they do," Eid said. "People do lots of stupid things on meth."

According to a report by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, figures on meth use and violence are closely correlated:

"Every community with a methamphetamine abuse problem has experienced violence in some form, most commonly appearing as domestic disputes. For example, police in Contra Costa County, California, report that methamphetamine is involved in almost 90 percent of the domestic dispute cases investigated by that agency. The extreme agitation and paranoia associated with use of the stimulant often lead to situations where violence is more likely to occur. Chronic use of methamphetamine can cause delusions and auditory hallucinations that precipitate violent behavior or response."

In an era where a drunk bar patron raving against the continued existence of a president or candidate could be picked up and questioned by the Secret Service without the bat of an eyelash, anyone should be seriously concerned by a driver in Denver hauling the following:

"...two high-powered rifles, including one with telescopic sights, along with radios, wigs, a bullet-proof vest, a high-magnification spotting scope, three identifications not belonging to Mr. Gartrell, and 44 grams of the stimulant methamphetamine. One rifle had a threaded barrel so that it could be fitted with a silencer."

Sounds like a classic assassination kit. The fact that it was only uncovered after a chance traffic stop is troubling.

One of the men arrested even said that the evidence in the hands of federal investigators undoubtedly pointed to an assassination plot. In a local news interview from jail, Nathan Johnson said that when he was faced with the facts, he had to admit it sure looked like his associates planned on assassinating Obama during the acceptance speech.

"With everything laid out on the table, I could see how it was possible that they could go through with it," Johnson said. When asked how he came to the conclusion that his friends were in Denver specifically to assassinate Obama, Johnson said, "I'm basing it off of the information that the feds gave me." 

"When the feds came in and laid everything out that had taken place," Johnson said, "I could see from their vantage point how, okay, yeah: There was the possibility that they were here to do it, and I said 'yes' to those comments."

Yet no charges will be filed. In similar circumstances, some offenders face jail time.

Just earlier this month, the Secret Service arrested a young Miami man and charged him with verbally threatening Obama's life. Raymond Hunter Geisel faces up to five years in prison for talking about, without any evidence of planning, an assassination attempt on Obama. In fact, some who know him have said he poses no threat, while others postulated that he meant he wanted to kill Osama bin Laden instead. 

The men arrested Sunday are also said to have ties with the white supremacist group Aryan Nations and a splinter group called The Order, as well as to a Neo-Nazi biker group called Sons of Silence. The three men were reportedly upset that a black man like Obama might become president.

Aryan Nations did not return a call for comment. But their Web site notes the affiliation of a commando group trained in violence:

"...several members of the Aryan Nations and Robert J. Matthews went on to form 'The Order' -- a group that conducted practical acts of economic sabotage, assassination and other forms of covert direct action against the tyrannical and anti-Aryan Zionist system."

The Order has produced murderers in the past.  Jason Hamilton, who went on a shooting spree before committing suicide last year was allegedly a member of The Order and, by extension, Aryan Nations.

Writers around the world are noticing the lack of concern and coverage of this story in U.S. media outlets. Some allege the U.S. is afraid of exposing the existence of, or paying undue attention to racists in the country. Others are using the lack of coverage to "prove" outlandish conspiracy theories.

The Associated Press reports that the Secret Service sees the case as the exact opposite:

"In an AP interview last week, the head of the Secret Service's Protective division said the white supremacist threat to Obama has been exaggerated.
'I think that it's something that, at times, the media tried to make more of,' Nick Trotta said. ‘We've always watched them, as we watch all the other groups.'"

There are a couple of reasons for the Secret Service to downplay this event. The fear of publicity bringing out copycat killers is a serious one. Also, the Obama campaign has been doing everything in its power to control the story coming out of Denver this week. With an event as political as a convention, that is an understandable desire, but the three men arrested in Denver this week deserve more scrutiny than they received in this age of heightened security risks.

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS


How does anyone get any

How does anyone get any baking done during an election cycle with so much tinfoil going into the habadashery?

Did I miss something here?

Wait, didn't one of these guys confess to what they were trying to do? Oh please,people have been arrested for less under this administration,like for exercising there rights of free speech. You have to remember here,the Aryan nation is not on Bush's terror group watch list,yet organizations like Greenpeace are.And who is the more violent of the two? And you talk of Obama being linked to some kind of radical theology? This country already is being converted to a fascist police state under this dictator and has been,even before the führer Bush. Just this past month your ruler plans to expand the police powers through executive approval without the people's congress before Oct.1 and we should be afraid of Obama? It seems to me it goes much deeper than Obama,it goes into every facet of our government, as our own government works to seal itself off every week from the laws and the will of the people with every new act and law that is passed.

jumping to conlcusions

I agree that we don't know the actual make of these rifles, but the presence of a spotter scope in the arsenal does suggest that some long-range shooting was what these tweakers had in mind. Also, anyone with $1200 can get themselves a Barrett 50 cal that can take down a helicopter at half a mile.

How can you be so sure, JohnDoe, in your insistance that the seized weapons were junk?

Get me a $7600 Barrett for $1200 & I'll BUY ALL YOU CAN GET!

Again - another pathetic statement - as YOU first equate two rifles into 'an ARSENAL' (typical of how Democrats exaggerate two rifles into an 'ARSENAL'...)

But even more PHONY is Barrett .50 BMG Rifles DO NOT SELL for $1200 - as the cheapest bolt-action Barrett .50 BMG's (models 95 & 99) sell for at least $5,000 & the semi-auto Barretts M-82 & M-107 start at $7600 wholesale!!!

And again, you act as if the PUNKS could've just WALTZED into Invesco Field or anywhere else with 32 pound LONG & HARD TO CONCEAL WEAPON like a Barrett .50 BMG - when 'REAL' TERRORISTS WOULD HAVE A MUCH EASIER TIME SMUGGLING SEMTEX in to do a job (plastic explosives)!

But Keep throwing out your STUPID, IRRATIONAL 'FEAR-MONGERING' - I LOVE 'SHOOTING' IT DOWN!

But hey maybe you should believe Vladimir (Ras)Putin's claims that Bush & McCain 'engineered' the Republic of Georgia crisis to help McCain in the election, as the former KGB Colonel Putin tries to hide the fact that he wants one of the KGB's 'PLANTS' from the CPUSA's 'career guidance path' to become the U.S. President!

And did any of you FOOLS (or Meg White) ask why BARACK Hussein Obama went to work for a 'shadowy' Communist Party 'FRONT' - like the 'Business International Corporation' right after leaving Columbia University in 1983???

Gee, did Obama just answer a classified ad for that 'CHOICE JOB' with his newly-minted undergrad degree in 'International Affairs'?

Of course no one at the CPUSA (Communist Party USA) - like Obama's 'mentor', Frank Marshall Davis didn't just hand Obama that job - like fellow CPUSA member Bill Ayers handed Obama so many 'Choice Jobs' in Chicago, right Barack ???

And Barack, despite the efforts of your media 'friends' to float rumors that the Business International Corporation is really a CIA Front - 'we' know better - as the CIA may have LOTS of faults - but hiring such an obvious CPUSA 'plant' like you - was not something the CIA would be dumb enough to do - but instead was the work of your Communist Party friends!

Gee Meg White - it seems like you 'MISSED' A LOT of FACTS about your beloved Barack Obama - "the Commie Man" and how AL QAIDA wants their 'Apostate' Barack Hussein Obama elected too - so he can be 'SIMPATICO' with all you LIBS!

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

Communism Barack Obama & Joseph Stalin

I'll take three things with nothing to do with each other for 800, Alex!

ALEX - YOU'VE ALREADY LOST!!!

Let's see - Barack Obama's mother (Stanley 'Ann' Dunham) wanted a Black Man to be Barack's mentor after she divorced Barack Obama Sr. & then 'magically'- as if out of thin air - she chooses Frank Marshall Davis (a former Chicago resident) and another member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) to mentor Barack Obama from his formative years in Hawaii all the way through his college years!

Then with Frank Davis still mentoring Barack Obama's 1979 - 1981 studies at Occidental College in California - Barack Obama & 'company' want us to believe that it was just a 'coincidence' that Barack Obama's 'roomies' at Occidental were ALL Pakistani Muslims - just as Obama's 'roomies' from 1981 to 1983 at Columbia University in New York City were also Muslims from Pakistan?

And there's that trip Barack Obama took to Pakistan in 1981 'arranged' for (by the CPUSA) an innocent? visit to a Soviet-client state (Pakistan) - under martial law in 1981 - supposedly to stay with his friend (a known drug-dealer) Sadik, who lists his occupation as a 'business consultant'?

Upon graduating from Columbia in 1983 with an undergrad degree in 'International Affairs', Barack Obama magically lands a job at the shadowy 'Business International Corporation', supposedly as an 'analyst' and writer - right out of college?

Then in June of 1985 Barack Obama decided to accept a job helping residents of poor, predominantly black, Far South-Side Chicago neighborhoods - where he INSTANTLY became Director of the Developing Communities Project, working for the next three years on efforts that ranged from job training to school reform to hazardous waste cleanup.

Barack Obama was then trained by the Communist Party USA aligned Saul Alinsky-founded Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) in Chicago as the Developing Communities Project itself was an affiliate of the Gamaliel Foundation, whose modus operandi for the creation of "a more just and democratic society" firmly rooted in the Alinsky method.

Saul Alinsky was known for helping to establish the aggressive political tactics that characterized the 1960s and have remained central to all subsequent revolutionary movements in the United States, as he also tried to hire Hillary Clinton prior to her Yale Law School years. (Gee, that sure sounds like Communism to me, 'euthyfro')

Beginning in 1985, Obama also worked with the George Soros-funded group 'ACORN', a creation of the Alinsky network, in addition Obama also worked for Project Vote, the voter-mobilization arm of ACORN.

In 1988 Obama enrolled at Harvard Law School, (Gee Barack did the CPUSA pay for that too..) where he became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review (again arranged by George Soros & the CPUSA) - as Barack Obama NEVER WROTE any articles for the Harvard Law Review - an oddity still unexplained today...).

Upon graduating from Harvard in 1991, Obama served as the Director of "Illinois Project Vote, until Obama married Michelle Robinson (now Michelle Obama) in 1992.

In 1993 Barack Obama became a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School, another position he still holds, compliments of George Soros & 'FRIENDS'!

In a 1995 case known as Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank, Obama and his friends at Davis & Miner attorneys charged that Citibank was making too few loans to black applicants, and they won the case = more defaulted 'Sub-Prime' loans for Citibank???

Also in 1995, Obama sued, on behalf of ACORN, for the implementation of the Motor Voter law in Illinois. Jim Edgar, the state's Republican Governor, opposed the law because he believed that allowing voters to register using only a postcard would breed widespread fraud. (another goal of 'THUG-STYLE' Stalinist politics to commit 'ELECTION FRAUD'...)

ACORN would later invite Obama to help train its staff as Obama also would be 'given' a job on the Board of the Woods Fund of Chicago by his new friend Bill Ayers, which gave a number of sizable grants to ACORN.

In 1995 Obama -- along with Al Sharpton and Jeremiah Wright -- helped organize the Washington, DC-based Million Man March which featured Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

Also sometime in the mid-1990s, Obama developed a friendship with fellow Chicagoans Bill Ayers and his terrorist wife, Bernardine Dohrn, university professors who hosted meetings at their home to introduce Obama to their neighbors during his first run for the Illinois state senate in 1996.

Ayers (who contributed money to Obama's 1996 campaign) and Dohrn had been leaders of the 1960s domestic terrorist group the Weatherman, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society.

Ayers and Dohrn had participated personally in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972. To this day, both have remained unrepentant about their former terrorist activities and their hatred of the United States - saying they didn't do ENOUGH bombing!

Also at the Ayers/Dohrn-hosted 'political gatherings' was Illinois Democratic state senator Alice J. Palmer, who soon developed a close friendly relationship with Obama.

Palmer was known for her outspoken support of the Soviet Union before 1991, and spoke against the United States and served as an executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a Communist front group - which was an affiliate of the World Peace Council, an international Soviet front!

Another key supporter of Obama's 1996 state senate campaign was Carl Davidson, a Marxist who in the 1960s had been a national secretary of Students of a Democratic Society and a national leader of the anti-Vietnam War movement.

In 1969 Davidson (along with Tom Hayden) helped launch the "Venceremos Brigades," which covertly transported hundreds of young Americans to Cuba to help harvest sugar cane and interact with Havana's communist revolutionary leadership. (The Brigades were organized by Fidel Castro's Cuban intelligence agency, which trained "brigadistas" in guerrilla warfare techniques, including the use of arms and explosives.)

In 1988 Davidson founded Networking for Democracy (NFD), and 1992 he became a leader of the newly formed Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and members of the Communist Party USA.

In the mid-1990s Davidson was a major player in the Chicago branch of a Marxist political coalition known as the New Party, whose endorsement Obama actively sought -- and received -- for his Illinois state senate run in 1996. Moreover, Obama used a number of New Party volunteers as campaign workers.

Obama's 1996 senate campaign also secured the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), the largest socialist organization in the United States and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International.(hmmmmm..)

Obama's affiliation with the DSA was longstanding, as evidenced by his reference, in Dreams From My Father, to the fact that during his student years at Columbia University he "went to socialist conferences at Cooper Union," which had served as the usual venue of the annual Socialist Scholars Conference!

According to Trevor Loudon, guest speakers at these conferences included "members of the Communist Party USA and its offshoot, the Committees of Correspondence, as well as Maoists, Trotsyists, black radicals, gay activists and radical feminists."

Mr. London observes that "Obama speaks of 'conferences' plural, indicating [that] his attendance was not the result of accident or youthful curiosity."

Hmmmmm, if Barack Obama walks with Communists, Talks with Communists (all the time..), accepts money & campaign workers from Communists, ya think he might just be a Communist himself???

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

Wow, the re-THUG-lican trolls sure are stupid and full of hate..

Congratulations Buzzflash and commenters, apparently we have really started bothering the crazies (re-THUG-licans). You know you're telling the truth when one of their crazy trolls starts a rant on your site. It is funny because they are pathetic and stupid. It is funny because they don't like others playing by their "rules". Which we all know re-THUG-licans don't have any rules. Cheers to all of us re-THUG-lican butt kickers.

Snipers or no snipers, GRRR-rreat speech!

With or without snipers, Senator Obama is totally The MAN!!! He knocked it outta the park tonight, I thought! Absolutely Grrreat speech!

The Meth Head Rednecks WERE FOUND WITH DRUGS - So YOU'RE WRONG!

Hey Boys & Girls,

Pathetic 'non-Sniper Rifles' incapable of 750 yard shots - DON'T constitute 'SNIPER RIFLES' despite how desperate you and your fellow LIARS want to overstate that the ravings of some rednecks into some 'GRAND CONSPIRACY' when Rednecks ALL OVER say worse all the time!

Besides, since the Police WILL NOT release the EXACT Make & Models of the evil 'SNIPER RIFLES' - most likely because myself & other 'Light Weapons Specialists' could QUICKLY DISPEL their exaggerated claims of people LIKE YOU & other 'CHICKEN-LITTLE' Conspiracy-Theory whiners!
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In other words - BIG F'ing DEAL!!!

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

you're throwing around the term "pathetic"--?

You wanna talk about "pathetic"? your boy John McCain, his entire campaign- now that's pathetic. John Kerry nailed McCain to the wall last night: "pitiful" and "pathetic"-- I loved it!

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses..."

Yo J-Doe-- your lil' signature quote there is (sadly) describing what the Karl Rove/Rodger Ailes wing of the ReThuglican party has been doing to this country for going on 30+ years. And from within this Bush/Cheney government they've clearly even pushed the corruption to the level of jailing the opposition- just ask Don Seigelman about that one! You're ridiculous! If you want to conflate Senator Obama with Stalin, lets make some really apt comparisons: how about making a sensible fact-based serious comparison of the government of Hitler in 1930's Germany with the government of George W. Bush right her at home from 2001 to 2007...? My guess is you couldn't handle it-- too much truth for ya. Check out Joe Conason's "It Can Happen Here", or Naomi Wolf's "The End of America: A Letter to a Young Patriot", or Mattthew Rothchild's "You Have No Rights: Stories of America in an Age of Repression". If you want to argue any of the points made in books such as these, you'll have to buy them- read them- and then try and dispute the points the authors make... Best idea yet: you can Buy these fine works right here at BuzzFlash! in the BuzzFlash Premiums part of the site!!

So JD-- your point is...?

So JD-- your point is...? Seems to me your intent is really just to jump in here and start YELLING and calling people names. Are you trying to sound like some kindof weapons expert? because I'm not impressed. (is YOUR gun bigger than your Daddy's...?) Sounds to me like you're just pissed 'cause your boy Dubya can't even announce a public appearance 24 hours ahead of time, because of the 1,000's of good patriotic Americans who believe in the US Constitution who'll showup to protest him as the ABSOLUTE WORST president in American history. Crawl back under your rock...

READ CLOSELY How Your ALL TALK No Substance Obama LIES!

I HAD TO LAUGH at ALL the LIES Barack Obama told you GULLIBLE FOOLS so taken in by his VERY 'INSPIRATIONAL' SPEECH that LACKED ANY 'substantive' REALITY (if you listened closely..)

As Barack Obama LIED his butt off saying he'd make sure everyone 'wasn't on their own' (more WELFARE for 'bootstraps' like FREE HEALTHCARE, FREE THIS & 'FREE THAT'...)

That was one of Obama's Biggest LIES & you SUCKERS FELL FOR IT!!!

And Obama also told people he would cut taxes for 95% of people while LOWERING TAXES at the same time - HOW, by waving his 'MAGIC WAND of Bullsh*t'?

Even more PHONY - Obama said he'd hire an 'army' of new teachers & pay them more - yet without raising taxes - but never said how he'd pull that stunt off without MASSIVE TAX INCREASES!!!

Tom Brokaw hosted NBC's 'Meet the Press' a few weeks ago & assembled leading economists to examine Obama's PHONY CLAIMS -that Brokaw showed (with REAL FIGURES) that there's NO WAY that Barack Obama can deliver what he's promising you naive fools - by proclaiming that 'OBAMA'S FIGURES JUST DON'T ADD UP...'

So now, America's new 'Joseph Stalin', whom your beloved Bill Clinton ALSO EXPOSED for using 'Chicago-style THUG TACTICS' as now Obama's 'peeps' are trying to get Tom Brokaw thrown off the air - as Joseph Stalin would've done!

In another one of Obama's Stalinist 'THUG' moves to RESTRICT FREE SPEECH (but wait - the 'Messiah' wants to muzzle what you say because he and Joseph Stalin, Adolph Hitler, and Hugo Chavez all MUZZLE their critic's FREE SPEECH) had his BLIND Obama 'ROBOTS-IN-DENIAL' try to 'CONTROL the MEDIA' by having his 'peeps' JAM the PHONE LINES on Wednesday night at Chicago's WGN Radio Station because Obama's SO AFRAID of the TRUTH by Professor Stanley Kurtz - whom the University of Chicago's Library REFUSES to let Kurtz examine the Annenberg Challenge files about Obama's CLOSE ties to FELLOW Communist, Billy 'the Bomb Thrower' Ayers whom not only appointed Barack Obama to his Kiss-Ass Job of awarding $$$ to George Soros 'Front Organizations' like ACORN & other Socialist Welfare Fronts - but that Obama's POLITICAL CAREER BEGAN in the HOUSE of a KNOWN 'COMMUNIST PARTY USA Member & TERRORIST', Bill Ayers!

But the most ABSURD was when your 'Superman' Obama said he was for the 2nd Amendment, but was going to 'BAN' criminals from having AK-47's because Obama Man says it's HIS RIGHT to TAKE AWAY AK-47's from criminals (who would suddenly include ANYONE - law abiding or not) from owning the ONLY TYPE of WEAPON that the 2nd Amendment PROTECTS - 'MILITIA WEAPONS' - not 'Duck Hunting Guns' like you PHONY Democrats want to PRETEND the 2nd Amendment covers....

Gee Barack, when you promise to BAN Criminals HAVING AK-47's (that's anyone who owns an AK-47) from having AK-47's, you might as well WAVE YOUR 'MAGIC WAND of BULLSH*T' and 'BAN' murder too, and then you can you also 'BAN' drug dealing & 'BAN' armed robbers too, and 'BAN' POVERTY too - which you'd have about the same results with - nevermind if the fools clapping for your don't know you CAN'T DELIVER ANY OF THESE OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS!

Because as long as Democrats keep buying illegal street drugs - then Barack Obama & all the Police in the World WILL NEVER STOP Dey Gangsta's wit Dey 'Gats'(AK-47's) brought in along with dey illegal drugs dat dey Gangsta's sell to dey Democrats who help dey Gangsta's buy dey Gatts wit dey 'Flow' dey get from sellin' dey drugs to dey Democrats!!! ROTFLMAO

Oh, but I just must one of those 'Petite bourgeoisie' types who are 'BITTER and CLING TO THEIR GOD & GUNS' (Gee, Joseph Stalin would be SO PROUD of you Obama for stating such a 'KEY' Communist Party STANCE!!!)

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

SOME PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE STUPID AND IGNORANT

First of all I think that you are very ignorant in what you say and although you may be a professional of some sort, it's pretty obvious that you are not a Saint... It's not in what kind of gun it was or how far it can shoot... I mean duh are you that slowwwwwwwwwwwwwww the fact of the matter is these stupid dumb idiots/druggies tried to kill and innocent man..I mean are really on here trying to defend that by saying some stupid stuff about you know it wasn't a sniper rifle... the last time I checked you can get killed with other types of guns besides a sniper rifle... you should really think before you start speaking... that's the problem with people now a days they dont think before they speak or act on things and this is why we are facing most of the hardships that we are facing now... Now let me ask YOU a question... had this been one of your children speaking tonight instead of Obama and this same situation occured would you be feeling and saying the same things that you are saying now? hmmmm well I wonder... guess you didn't think about that huh... please do us all a favor and get real...Oh yeah and by the way I am in the Military just to let you know and I am for Obama...

AGAIN - YOUR STUPID PREMISE is Rednecks COULD ENTER INVESCO!

First off - if you're actually really in the Military? - as a Cook, or some 'Non-Combat Arms' MOS (Military Occupational Specialty) - I can guaran-Damn-Tee YOU that YOU DON'T KNOW Jacksh*t about WEAPONS with DUMB comments like, "It's not in what kind of gun it was or how far it can shoot..."

Oh really, as if ballistics, trajectory, and muzzle energy have nothing to do with hitting what you're aiming at & not some errant 'spray & pray' suppressive fire - as Meth Freaks aren't gonna have 'RING-SIDE' SEATS!

Oh, but I forgot, the Bush-hired Secret Service Agents are all 'Simpatico' with their fellow 'Aryan Brothers' & YOUR STUPID PREMISE that Rednecks COULD ENTER INVESCO with scoped 'Sniper Rifles' was an 'ALL TOO REAL' possibility???

But wait, the Messiah's SPEECH is OVER & no Redneck Plots have hatched - so America's 'HOPE OF NOTHINGNESS' is SAFE - at least for now???

And if one of 'my children' was speaking in favor of Socialism - as Barack does - despite his attempts & his 'In the tank' news media's attempts to hide his SOCIALISM - I'd take that child and let him talk with the former residents of Cuba, Venezeula, or other FAILED Socialist experiments, or read the 'FACTUAL' teachings of history's 'MOTIVATIONAL' Demagogues like Adolph Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Fidel Castro, Karl Marx, Joseph Stalin and others who Barack Obama has learned so well from - and ask that child if she/he saw any parralels between Obama & the World's GREAT SPEAKERS - who turned out to be DESPOTS!

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

You're missing the point--

You're missing the point-- I agree w/ you that these 3 jerks probably had 30-06's, and only one of the 2 rifles was even fitted w/ a scope-- pretty pitiful- Slim-to-No-Chance of pulling off any sort of a tragic, horrific, crime against a law-abiding Patriotic Democrat-- BUT!, the point is: there they were- in the same town as the convention (coincidence?), Overheard talking about trying to shoot Senator Obama (coincidence?), also had a spotting scope along with the ammmo and the (probably ridiculous wigs and "body armor") w/ their couple back issues of Soldier of Fortune mags and their Aryan Brotherhood literature (all coincidences...?), not to mention that they're all jacked (it sounds like) on Crystal-- but the point Sherlock is that you put all that together, stay w/ me, then you try and consider what percentage of folks here in the good ol' US of A are either ignorant or hate-filled or misinformed/uninformed/brainwashed or all-of-the-above, and then you multiply that percentage times some fairly significant number relative to the total US population, and just the fact that this story has cropped up- to me- very quickly gets pretty scary and really pretty sad for where our country as a whole is in the year 2008.

1 Redneck had 2 weapons - Because he was selling Meth - BFD!

First off - ONLY 1 of the Meth Dealers had TWO guns in a rental truck & I seriously doubt any of the rifles was a 30.06 - as usually a rifle with a 'threaded' barrel is an AK-47, or an AR-15, with only Yugoslavian (Zastava) Type 59 SKS rifles having threaded muzzle & POLICE ARE AFRAID of DISCLOSING THE TYPES of Guns here!

But regardless of these two guns - which are far fewer guns than the # of guns that most criminal street gangs already have - because despite Obama's phony claims tonight to BAN AK-47's - like he's about as able to BAN DRUGS, BAN murder, & Ban ARMED ROBBERIES, and Ban this & ban that - with WHAT - his 'MAGIC WAND of PHONY PROMISES' that were so voraciously 'SWALLOWED' by the GULLIBLE, NAIVE SUCKERS at Invesco Field & on TV tonight???

So, while this White-Devil SLAVE Master Conspiracy' B.S. sells newspapers & grabs headlines - like a trainwreck - everyone talks about the 'PLOT' - when a REAL PLOT in Denver - much more ORGANIZED - with REAL INTENT - just saw an Adams County Chief Deputy District Attorney 'ASSASSINATED 'FOR REAL' in a MUCH CLOSER AREA to Invesco Field where Obama spoke tonight - but that wasn't SENSATIONAL ENOUGH for YOU 'CONSPIRACY DREAMERS'!

GET REAL PEOPLE - Obama might be a GREAT SPEAKER - but when Tom Brokaw recently assembled a panel of leading economists who EXPOSED that Obama's UTOPIAN 'Dream World' of more 'Bootstraps' (MORE Welfare, Free Healthcare, LOWER TAXES & HIGHER Teacher salaries...) was NOT viable by anyone's figures a few weeks ago - now Obama & his 'peeps' are trying to get Tom Brokaw THROWN OFF THE AIR into PERMANENT RETIREMENT!!!

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

Wow, JD2-- Well, if Tom Brokaw said it...

Wow, JD2-- Well, if Tom Brokaw said it... then it must be true. Riiiiight. (done with that "we've-got-to-move-you-downstairs-into-storage-room-B voice) Look nobody w/ even half a brain is buying that crap anymore--any so-called "panel of experts" assembled and sat in front of a corporate media camera is going to spin it toward McSame and bash Obama-- McSame is their boy now, he is solidly in their pockets, ready to tow the line for this US coporatocracy-- and frankly, everyday that goes by they are getting more and more worried about this true honest Populist Movement that Obama is out in front of. It was a great convention- sorry that you can't see that, JD2. Crawl back under your rock and snuggle up with a warm bottle of that republican stoopid juice. OMG!-- "Tom Brokaw and a panel of leading economists"--ha ha ha... what a sad joke on our country that this enormous propaganda machine is accepted day after day on face value as the "truth". The whole friggin corporate media should come with a warning disclaimer: Harmful if Swallowed.

And--

And-- I commend folks like Amy and Meg at BuzzFlash for doing good solid reporting of stories like these-- They seem to be working hard at the art of Journalism, something that is pretty difficult to find these days, JD2, in the corporate media's "News" consisting of garbage like "Brokaw and a panel of experts..." sitting around postulating and pontificating ad nauseum. ugh. JD2, my advice to you- keep reading BuzzFlash- you may actually get smarter. Also, (IMHO just as an outside person who patronizes this website and who's always thought it was great) JD@, I think if you're gonna Troll in here, be sure to buy a Premium on your way out. Have a nice day.

Bushites are trying to assassinate Obama.

Is it me, or the world has gone crazy?

Oh Chicken Little the SKY is FALLING (Because of PHONY NEWS)

PUUUUUUUUULLLLLEEEEEEEZZZZZZZ

Oh yeah they're gonna get poor Obama - those evil White Devil Slave Masters...

What a BUNCH OF PHONY 'FEAR MONGERING'

Way to Go Meg - you've got the naive 'children' all hysterical with 'pseudo-fear'!!!

"Control The Media - who in this case is SCARING the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!" Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

As if PUNKS Could 'Waltz' into Invesco with 'Sniper Rifles' ???

As if these PUNKS could just 'Waltz' into Invesco field with 'Scoped Sniper Rifles' wearing Bullet-Proof Vests, YEAH RIGHT!!!

Oh, but wait - that's right - since most of you think the 'S.S.' works for Bush - lets just put on all our 'tin-foil hats' as your GRAND CONSPIRACY-THEORY MINDS dream of Secret Service Agents who are also 'Rednecks' too as they'll let their fellow Aryan Nation 'brothers' slip into Invesco Field to 'TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS' with ragged AK-47's that can't hit much of anything over 400 yards anyway - But OH, they have threaded barrels, OMG!!!

Nevermind that you FOOLS KNOW NOTHING about 'suppression' (Silencing) of weapons and how improbable all your irrational fears are - those movies you watched - make this all too possible, right...???

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

hmm... yea, I'm afraid that my fears are feeling irrational...

...and JD#2 says, "...you FOOLS KNOW NOTHING about... [blah blah blah]... and how improbable all your irrational fears are...wah wah-wahh wah (in Charley Brown's teacher's voice). Wasn't the head of the Arkansas State Democratic Party shot 3 or 4 weeks ago...??? (Is the motive still unclear for that one?) "...the only thing we have to fear is fear itself!" -Franklin Roosevelt "...because tonight I fear NO MAN!" -Dr. Martin Luther King "...Fool for your Love..." -The Cars?

Shotguns in church...?

Was there, or was there not, some Right-wing Looneytune blasting away at the folks at a Unitarian Universalist Church about a month ago? maybe 6 weeks ago...??? His motive: because he hated Liberals, and basically thought they should all be killed???

Too Bad Fools Like You Don't Realize What Israelis do About This

Too Bad Fools like You Don't Realize what the Israelis do about this kind of situation...

They know enough not to Worship without 'PACKING' - otherwise the Terrorists would just hang out at all the Jewish Temples.....DDDuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh!!!

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

Clearly JD#2 Is a Fan of These Homicidal Liberal-Hating Yoyos

So of course there's no "real threat" - to him....

Anybody wonders why I have never supported gun control, these people are why - b/c they can't be reasoned with in Any Other Fashion. So long as my fellow Progressives insist on making themselves into sacrificial lambs, the whole movement is going to get rolled over - but if we can give JD#2 Progressivism with real teeth, then even he will understand we mean business.

You LIBS will see 'REAL TEETH' if O-Man thinks he'll Disarm Us!

As they say, 'From my COLD DEAD FINGERS...'

And because anyone with half a CLUE (not the fools here..) knows: The #1 CAUSE of Gun Crime in America Today is caused by Democrats Buying Illegal Drugs from Dey Gangsta's who in turn BUY MORE & MORE POWERFUL 'FIREPOWER' - because any fool knows (except STUPID Democrats who'd rather blame law-abiding Gun Owners for what 'they' cause...) you don't sell drugs without being heavily armed!

Now of course my Libertarian brothers would rather see drugs decriminalized - it ain't gonna happen anytime soon- as Dem's would rather blame the NRA & the GOP listens to cops who want BIGGER & BIGGER $$$$ to fight a DRUG WAR they CANNOT WIN - as long as Dems want the drugs!

And how's Obama gonna 'FIX' the fact that his constituents make up the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of ILLEGAL DRUG USERS & DRUG DEALERS???...

Of course by 'EMPOWERING' his radical hoodlum followers into having 'More OPPORTUNITIES' to Rape, Rob & Kill through O-Man's attempts to disarm the 'law-abiding' victims, or to saddle them with single shot rifles with much lower capabilty than the weapons his 'homies' will always be able to smuggle in with the drugs they're already smuggling into the U.S. - like the Bank of America shootout served as NOTICE to the BLIND California Democrats who 'BANNED' Assault Weapons in California - a lot of good that does - if you've seen the RAMPANT GUN CRIME in California with 'Assault Weapons'!!!

Oh but wait - I'm giving you NAIVE FOOLS too much 'REALITY' - run & whine!!!

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

EYES and EARS

EVERYONE who is a Democrat or just any good honest American that knows this country is in serious, serious decline, has to be the EYES and EARS for Barack and Joe. We have to watch and listen for the nut cases that live in this country that wish harm on our candidates. We need to give our full attention to even the slightest sign that something could be wrong. Take head of the loner going up a back stairway with a suitcase. The assholes who say over and over "I won't stand for a fucken nigger being elected President of my country". I have been at bars where this has been stated by a few people. It is up to all of us to watch Barack Obama's and Joe Biden's back. This is exactly what Joe Bidens son Bough, meant when he asked all Americans to "watch out for my DAD while I'm away". He knows the potential is there for the white power types to do harm. They are so afraid they are loosing their imagined supremacy, that they are delirious with hate. So I ask also, please be aware of what's going on around you and take care of both JOE and Barack. Thank You, Masi

Something Smells Here..

I posted a story not long ago about a homeless man getting nearly 5 years for threats against dumbya. He was mentally ill also. He had NO weapons, and no means by which to carry out any threat. http://www.buzzflash.net/story.php?id=57130 All I can say about this is it stinks. And it shows that if you're good to go from the gub-ment goons, you can do their bidding. Don't think for a moment this was not a gub-ment hit job.

One more thing...

If these goons were meth heads, they would have had drugs on them. They don't get far without the ability to do a "bump". So why aren't there at least drug charges? Because they are employees of the gop.

just by-the-way, we can

just by-the-way, we can assume that these groups are completely infiltrated by the federales and make few--if any--moves without th govt. knowing about it. the feds might be protecting an informant by pretending nothing much was happening...

No threat???!!!

U.S. Attorney Troy Eid seemed to say that because the men were on drugs, they shouldn't be taken as a serious threat

Is this one of the U.S. Attorneys hired by Monica Goodling?

If Anyone 'WHACKS' O-MAN (as in OMEN) - LQQK at Clintons 1st

If Anyone 'WHACKS' the 'O-MAN' (as in 'OMEN') - I'd LQQK at the Clintons 1st & foremost!

Just Google: "Who Killed Ron Brown"

Or Google: 'Arkansides" to see all those who are dead/missing (like Ron Brown) after agreeing to testify about the ILLEGAL - Dirty Deals of Bill & Hillary!

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

Its time for your regularly-scheduled FoxNews Kool-Aid...

come along JD, swallow it all up like a good lil' fellar....

Looks MORE like Meg White has you DRUNK w Phony Kool Aid FEAR!

Gee Traingle Bill - it sure looks MORE like Meg White has you all 'DRUNK' with 'Phony FEAR' in her little 'Kool Aid' story of 'PLOTS' by White Supremacists - as she IGNORES the 'REAL PLOT' that actually KILLED an Adams County Chief Deputy District attorney with REAL GUNS much closer to Obama that the meth freaks who LACKED the ABILITY (key factor to irrational LOSER Democrats...) ???

But then I have this BAD HABIT of OBJECTIVELY LOOKING at the 'FACTS' - like the lack of any REAL SNIPER WEAPONS & the 'fact' that the PUNKS with a 400 yard AK-47 with a scope would've NEVER been able to get through the Magnometers at Invesco Field - despite the 'tin-foil' Secret Service is all Bush hired Dem-haters & sworn members of the 'Bruder Schweigen' CRAP on here...)

"Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!"

Joseph Stalin & Barack Hussein Obama

Joseph Stalin

I had long ago set 1 of my missions to the task of disabusing people of this propaganda we have been spoon fed all our lives as American citizens. From reading through this thread it seems to me that JohnDoeNumber2 would have been cheering if he were there when Stalin jailed and/or killed almost all of his opposition because the vast majority of those in the gulags, massacred or executed after fixed trials were of the LEFT OPPOSITION. When Stalin was finished in his work the only living communists in the USSR were in prison. So yes "Control The Media, Intimidate the Masses, and Jail or Kill the Opposition!" is the plan of all Totalitarians, Oligarchs and Rulers. No communist has ever thought or said it.

Trust the Secret Service.....

Most of federal justice and law enforcement has been politicized. Why should the Secret Service be any different? Whisper a threat, in jest, against Bush or Cheney and you'd be in SuperMax before the week ends.

If I were Obama or Biden I'd be hiring my own security team, a team loyal to them and not doing the bidding of the Republican Party. If the SS goons are as "apolitical" as their counterparts in the Justice Department, the Democratic candidates should have very serious worries about their safety. John McCain, on the other hand, probably couldn't be safer.

Unbelievable

Can you imagine if these guys would have said the same thing about Bush as they said about Obama? They'd be locked up for years. If the powers that be in this country let Obama be assassinated, just like they did the Kennedy's and Martin Luther King, this country will be doomed.

Unfortunately, Believable

Don't forget Wellstone on that list of the assassinated. That we never get the answers about the anonmalies in connection with these deaths has kept our country on the road to doom for years. While we're at it, we can add the anthrax mail attacks targeted at the Democratic majority leaders of the US Senate. The dead were not those intended. But they were still assassination attempts. Pat Williams