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Phil Gramm: "We live in the only country in the world where all the poor people are fat"

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS
by Amy Weiss

The "nation of whiners" quote, where John McCain's economic adviser Phil Gramm accused the country of being in a "mental recession" received a great deal of national attention, but it's not the first time Gramm has displayed insensitivity for struggling Americans.

In his 1984 Senate campaign in Texas, Gramm allegedly said "Has anyone ever noticed that we live in the only country in the world where all the poor people are fat?" a quote also attributed to Dinesh D'Souza and a favorite of right-wingers leaving comments on Web sites disparaging the American welfare system.

In the same campaign, his opponent ran commercials "portraying Mr. Gramm as saying that the elderly deserved no sympathy because few people had the 'luxury' of living to 80 and that Federal budget provisions for the handicapped encouraged people to be crippled. "

Obviously, the ad content must be taken with a grain of salt due to the extremely contentious nature of that campaign, but given Gramm's unsympathetic attitude towards the poor, it doesn't seem so far-fetched.

Bob Herbert once said, "The insufferable Phil Gramm likes to talk about people riding in the wagon while others do all the pulling." He also characterized the atmosphere in the Senate after a welfare reform bill Gramm helped lead the effort on was passed as "millionaires celebrating the stomping of the poor."

A political science professor said of Gramm: "He is diabolically smart, but he makes no concessions to small talk and does not do well communicating with people he feels are his intellectual inferiors."

Does that include Mr. "I don't really understand the economy," John McCain?

Gramm told an opponent once, "I feel so sorry for your many problems, but you deserve them."

Just like poor people deserve to be poor ... and fat. And just like hardworking Americans deserve to be struggling in a recession that's all in their heads.

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS


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"Has anyone ever noticed that we live in the only country in the world where all the Fascists are called Republicans?"

Poor people are fat

because they can't afford to eat healthy. They have to live on starches and bread. They can't afford fruits and vegetables. Gramm is an evil, evil person. Him talking to McCain is reason enough to not vote for McCain. He (like McCain) has lived off the government teat all his life. And I'm sick and tired of hearing Social Security and Medicare referred to as "entitlements." They aren't. We pay taxes for those programs. "Entitlements" sounds like the government is doing us a favor by "letting" us benefit from them. GAWD, I hate Republicans with every fiber of my being. Hugs & Kisses.

Fat Head Phil

You can easily tell Phil Gramm has nothing but utter contempt for people at the bottom of the economic ladder,and that is where I have ended up,as have most industrial workers.I remember his days in the senate and I must say he has evolved into an even more pompous ass,if that's possible. He hates anything related to government services for the poor but handouts for the wealthy,well,this is what keeps America great.He and his family have fed at the government trough for so long they can't comprehend,and have no idea the daily difficulties of a wage slave in America today.He and his wife Wendy are so out of touch with what it takes to actually earn a living today in what remains of industrial America.I worked as a welder for over twenty years from the late seventies until the late nineties.The company I worked for went bankrupt and closed. At the end of that job I was making four dollars more an hour then I make today.I wasn't rich but I was doing ok.I would love to see him and all of his ilk live on the miserable $350 a week take home I make today for forty hours.I am sure he spends that much on a dinner and doesn't bat an eye.Meanwhile CEO's make millions and even billions a year.That is the real disgrace.

The Same Country Where The Poor Die From Lack Of Health Care

"Cause of death?" "America didn't give a damn." "The people?" "The powers that be."

phil gramm - American disgrace

This asshole deserves nothing less than continuous sodomy while in prison. He and his actions have fucked middle class Americans for years. He should feel what it is like, in the most graphic and painful of ways.

Gramm and McCain are the disgrace

along with all the other PARASITES who get rich at taxpayer expense, with their mansions we paid for, and taxpayer-paid ELITE MEDICAL BENEFITS and generous taxpayer-paid PENSIONS, and who are stealing the money WE ALREADY PAID to have SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE, and subsidizing their favorite charities with taxpayer's money: the multi-billionaire corporations who greased their paths to Washington. They already have such generous social security and medicaid benefits, there's nothing left for the rest of us. They scorn the taxpayers, how plain can it be? Take a good look at these two mean old farts, is this what you want to look at and hear for the next decade? I don't get it, how anybody can listen to this B.S. and even consider voting for McCain. Mr. Straight Talk who didn't vote on the FISA bill, why? Won't comment on insurance-paid Viagra vs. birth control pills, why? Thank Gramm for Enron and foreclosed mortgages. Gramm's been McCain's friend and economic adviser for years, no wonder McCain is brain dead.

Oooops, my mistake

Phil Gramm didn't fail just two grades. According to the New York Times, "Gramm failed the third, seventh and ninth grades." You don't run into many people that have failed three grades.

Not smart and a pig at the public trough

Phil Gramm was left back twice and didn't graduate high school until he was 19. His teachers thought he was slow, and probably mentally retarded. For a Republican that cries about the welfare state, he has been at the public trough his whole life -- getting a college education at a state school (University of Georgia), teaching at a state school (Texas A&M), and then sticking his snout into the House and then the Senate for 22 years.

Pig at the trough

No, apparently Phil Gramm is not mentally retarded, he's Morally Retarded.

Librarian ejected from McCain Venue

I have the video. Her sin was to hold a sign: "McCain = Bush." Well, no wonder they kicked her out of the area where McCain was holding a town hall meeting. http://mcbush08.blogspot.com/

Uh

And this has to do with Phil Gramm because...?

So Rush Limbaugh is poor?

Ol' Rush is extremely weathy and is fat (gastric surgery slim-down notwistanding). Rush, why does Phil Graham hate you so? What the heck is with this point of view that being fat means a poor bank account, and a poor character. I'm skinny, and have three sister who gain weight very easily and I can tell you, it isn't because they want to gain weight, or because they are busy stuffing Phil Graham's imaginary welfare checks into their mouths. It has always been thus; it's obvious their bodies cannot process food in the same way as does a skinny person. We need more scientific solutions on that matter, and less anti-depressants being marketed to people who, well, have feelings because sad things have happened to them! What an ass hat is Phil Graham.

Please keep talking Phil

You are doing more for the Obama campaign than any supporter could do. And if you want to test out your theories of darwinism I will gladly meet you anywhere, anytime. We can see who really comes out on top when you aren't playing in your little artificial, man-made, virtual world of monetary capitalism.

Fill up from a Phil up

So this is going to be as tough as I thought even with Jesse Helms gone....

So many years...

...have gone by watching with silent rage while the regressives run around masquerading as defenders of the working man, family values, common decency, state's rights and individual liberties. Fooling hardworking decent people into voting against themselves. Watching them paint the true defenders of America as communists, perverts and terrorist sympathizers while going about the work of TREASON, destroying our nation and corporate-welfaring it off in pieces to the pig CEO's and various other crony fat-cats. Very rarely does one get an unvarnished glimpse into the true soul (as it were) of a regressive, naked and unadorned, as Mr. Gramm gives the country. I honestly thank him for it. You Americans whose jobs have been sent away overseas, whose houses are being foreclosed at the same time as utterly irresponsible brokerage houses are bailed out without consequence, who can't get your children in to see a doctor, who can't get yourselves in to see a doctor because a shareholder might stand to lose a penny in dividends, TOUGH SHIT. YOU ARE POOR BECAUSE YOU DESERVE TO BE POOR. SUCK IT UP, GET BACK TO WORK AND BE GLAD WE GIVE YOU A JOB AT ALL. KNOW YOUR PLACE AND LEARN TO RESPECT YOUR BETTERS, AND WHO KNOWS(snicker snicker), MAYBE YOU'LL BE ONE OF US SOMEDAY.. Never mind that obesity is a recognized, well documented consequence of the kind of impoverished diet that poor people are restricted to by their circumstances. I guess 'ol Bar Bush likes to slum it around at the Popeye's, that silver-haired Bush-spawning maggot is more than a little tubby last time I checked. Shall we discuss PIG LIMPBALLS? JERRY FALWELL'S tub o' blub? KKKARL ROVE'S weak chin swaddled in disgusting baby fat? Which is worse, the obesity of the poor who have no choice for a better diet or the pasty cottage cheese of a MONEY GRUBBING CORPORATE GLUTTON, who CAN do better but just can't stop SNARFLING AROUND HIS FILTHY TROUGH while the world burns? At any rate, Phil my man, thanks for the glimpse into the dark, diseased soul of the reich-wing. The obesity of the poor has nothing on the jiggling corpulence of the pigs that you serve, Mr. Gramm. Now take your liver-spotted bony carcass off somewhere and die.

phil graham

phil's comments, go to show you just how far politicians are out of touch with the american people. they just do not care about us.

Social Darwinism at its most

Social Darwinism at its most flagrant. I hope Gramm keeps shooting his mouth off. He makes it so easy to identify who the real enemy of the people are.

And it ain't liberals.

But..

John Stuart Mill said: "While it's true that not all conservatives are stupid, it is a fact that all stupid people are conservatives." You can always lose weight if it's important to you. Nothing you can do about stupid.

The proposition that the

The proposition that the rich deserve to be rich and the poor deserve to be poor is essentially a moral position used as a philosophical weapon by amoral people to shame those who actually have a conscience. Phil Gramm is such a creature. He has made a career in congress of aiding and abetting the legalization of theft while pontificating about it. He is a criminal. Like most criminals, he blames his victims for having been stupid enough to get rolled in the first place. He has a point, but it is not a moral point; it's a point about power. The Phil Gramms of the world have always been the arch enemies of those content to just try and live a decent life. Until moral defectives like Gramm are pulled down, made to fear justice and to make restitution, they will always hold people limited by moral imperatives in contempt.

Great Comments on Buzzflash reGramm

Great comment, and I agree. It has also occurred to me that Gramm is nothing more than a psychopathic criminal, who should be prosecuted for his many crimes. I sincerely hope that some of his insane antics come back to bite him on the ass. BTW, I've really enjoyed reading all the the commments on this post.

Graham's Comment is Wrong in Two Ways

One clearly intentional, one possibly through simple ignorant imcompetence.

Simple First: The US is hardly the only country where poor people are "fat" - this was, in fact, a huge problem in Great Britain and the rest of the Industrialized World in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. There as here, it was mainly due to diets heavy in carbohydrates and fats and low in proteins and vitamins, resulting in malnutrition in the working classes.

Which leads to the Clearly Intentional - Graham must know full well those poor Americans are "fat" not b/c of good nutrition like he as a rich guy is getting, but b/c of malnutrition because they eat lots of empty carbs and fats, since they're much cheaper than food that's actually good for you. I should know, b/c I'm trying to change my own eating habits in order to eat healthier - and fish and a salad, or chicken and hummus, cost me about double what a burger and fries, or a couple slices of pizza, do!

Anyway, the quote's about a quarter-century old so it's not an immediate GOTCHA! But - as the Rethugs liked to say about Slick Willie when he was President, "It speaks to his character...." ;)

The Poor are being Annihilated

We live in the only country in the world where if you're not wealthy you have to eat artificial food. That "food" is making us fat and sick. They are killing us to control the population. PLEASE NOTE THEY DON'T EAT THE GARBAGE THEY'RE FEEDING THE MASSES. We must all plant our own gardens and trade chicken and eggs and skip out on THEIR grocery stores, which are killing us all.

What a Schmuck!

I think there are many reasons we're fat and I think lack of education about health is one of the biggest. The other is that carbs are cheap easy to get and instantly satisfying. Also, and why no one ever mentions this I just don't know, ALOT of people lost more physically active jobs and now they sit in front of computers at work for 8 hours a day. If they're like me they add on almost 2 hours of commute time and by the time they get home they are exhausted. I'm sure there are many more reasons. I was never fat till I had to get into the commuter lifestyle. I had to move out of the city because that's where I could afford to buy a home. I'm glad old farts like that are old and will die soon. I think the younger generation is smarter. By the way, just for perspective all you young'ns out there - the house I grew up in which is worth $290K now was bought and just about payed off in the 60's by my dad who was a humble mechanic! I'm a professional and I can't live like my parents did!! Thom Hartmann had a good radio show today where they were talking about this very thing. Man, I sure would like to get Phil Gramm in a room with a handful of people like myself. Not poor but not thriving that's for dang sure!

There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.

-John Dolan ......... Sorry kids - it's true.

What an ass.

The implications of his statement are: 1. the poor of the US are better off than the poor of other nations; "fat" being a desirable condition and/or 2. the poor are "fat" because they are "well-fed" (something we all know not to be true, as a bona fide healthy diet rarely results in the kind of obesity we see in poorer areas where high-fat fast food vendors vastly outnumber fresh food/produce vendors). Nice.

Whole Paycheck

The other thing that really makes me angry is that healthy food is marketed as gourmet food. Organic food is more expensive than factory farmed food. IE Healthy is expensive. Healthy is for elites. There is something wrong with that picture! It's the same with hybrid vehicles. How are we going to get those into the hands of lower income people? I'm telling you we have alot of work to do to make this country stop being so insane!

The Blowhard

must be a direct descendant of Marie Antoinette. May his fate be the same.

Blowhard

He is obviously in the same league as Barb Bush. Remember Huston? KrankyCanuck

The only whining I hear comes from the right

Ya ever notice that.

It's the wing nuts of this country who're always whining, complaining that somebody lower down the economic ladder is getting some kind of government freebie that they aren't, so nobody should get it.

They're always whining that all their paycheck goes to taxes which go to "government" schools, highway maintenance and, especially, welfare.

But yet not one of these hard-charging, stand-on-my-own-two feet Ayn Rand-cultist, Ted Nugent-fans or Rush Limbaugh-listeners ever misses a chance to line up for free cheese, collect a FEMA check or bitch out the DOT everytime they drive over a pothole.

Frankly, I wish all the Ayn Rand-cultists, Ted Nugent-fans and Rush Limbough-listeners would take the advice of the late Jack E. Leonard and put their shoes on and get the hell outta here!

There curently are several countries were taxes are low and governmental services, aside from the police, courts and military, are non-existant: Somolia, Haiti, Afghanistan and Iraq.

I wish they would all emigrate to one of the above free market paradises with Phil and Wendy Gramm leading them like Moses leading the Children of Israel out of Egypt.

To that, I'd say good ridance.

If you're wondering...

If you're wondering why poor people are fat, which is kind of true. It's because all they can afford to eat is shit like MacDonalds which is cheap and has little nutritional value. Poor people are also less educated and tend to cling to guns and religion when times are tough.

Gramm's Greatest Hits

Gramm was asked by Kudlow if Obama had a more direct assistance plan for the middle class (than McCain's plan) to give everybody making less than $250K/yr a $500.00 tax credit -or $1000.00 per household tax credit. Gramm emphatically answered no, and in the same breath said "Now let Me ask You a question: How many people poorer than you have ever hired you?" Hmmmm. Oh, he's an asshole alright. An insensitive economic guru with a total disregard for the middle class, and contempt for voters. Yeah, let's try That kind of republicanism this time; The non-compassionate conservative kind, because the Other kind has been working so well for them -and US. (Snark) Note: That is from the same Phil Gramm who is still on the board of UBS in the section that deals with subprime mortgages, and whose wife, Wendy, got a golden parachute while serving on the ENRON board of directors while the company's investors and employees got the shaft(politicalbase.com).

GRAMM CRACKER, THE CRUMB!

Phil Gramm may want to believe he's over intelligent, but the reality is he's merely clever. Others may THINK he's intelligent, but they're merely dumber than stumps and just don't 'measure up'. For all his supposed & self-declared brain power, he has NO Integrity, Morality, Honesty, Honor, Courage, Decency, Self Respect (look who he married!) or Ethics. He's merely taking the Air of much more VALID people...

Gramm floats in his LAISSIEZ FAIRYLAND

Buzz, Phil and his fellow Republic Party pals float up in their LAISSEIZ FAIRYLAND where everything is just as wonderful as the Ayn (as in MINE) Rand Gospel they truly believe in. Really, besides ol President Pruneface Reagan, nobody has screwed more Americans than Phil Gramm, from when he first sold out the Democratic Party to push the Gramm-Latta budget cuts in 1981 till all the deregulation he pushed as a whore senator, nobody made more people suffer. Homeless people, widows whose husbands were cut off of Social Security disability, Veterans in need of medical care, college students cut off of Social Security and unable to complete college, starving kids cut off of WIC and others who starve after their food stamp allotments were cut off, along with Medicaid recipients suddenly severely means tested and forced into bankruptcy--all these suffer because of Phil Gramm's meanness. When he dies, they are going to have to put this evil selfish prick in his own special level of hell.

PHIL " GUMP " GRAMM *

I HOPE LIKE HELL GRANDPAW SIMPSON PUTS HIM IN CHARGE OF THE VP {SHAM} SEARCH ! "*IF GOD DID,NT LOVE RICH REPUBLICANS....WHY,ED HE MAKE SO MANY OF THEM !? "

So many Republicans?

There are not that many Republicans! However, it does not take that much of something bad to stink up something good. Have your chihuahua "pitch a loaf" into a batch of fine wine - now you have a large batch of liquid dog poop.

How many skunks does it take to completely fark up a lawn party?

Just one moderately loud egg salad with onion and green-beer fart at a nun's wake?

McCain and Gramm are common variety garden slugs. You always know where they are - simply follow the slime. BOTH THESE BUFFOONS HAVE BEEN ON THE GOVERNMENT DOLE ALL THEIR PARASITIC LIVES.

As Casey Stengel used to say, "Ya' cud look it up!"

The Skeptical Cynic hath spake!

Santa knows when you are sleeping,
He knows when you're awake.
He knows if you've been bad or good.
Unfortunately, so does Bush,
Cheney, Rice, Mukasey, and...
the FBI, ONI, CIA, MCIA, NSA,
DIA,MI6, MOSSAD, AIPAC,

PHIL " GUMP " GRAMM

ANYONE REMEMBER HIS FLAMIN TURD OF A PRESIDENTAL CAMPAIN IN 1996 !?