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Obama Bristles at Comparisons to Bush, Disappoints Human Rights Advocates at Closed-Door Meeting

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by Alyssa Morin

President Obama has come repeatedly under fire for what has appeared to be reversals on the national security policies he promised during his campaign.  The President's decision to not move forward with a full-scale investigation into torture conducted by the previous administration and his reluctance to end lawless imprisonment at the Bagram air force base in Afghanistan have caused many civil liberties groups to question the President's commitment to any real divergence from the policies of the last eight years.

On the eve of his press conference about the closing of Guantanamo Bay, President Obama met privately with human rights groups Wednesday in an effort to quell mounting criticism over national security decisions, such as the continuation of military tribunals for Guantanamo prisoners and not releasing further photographs of detainee abuse.

What was supposed to be a closed-door meeting became more public after Press Secretary Robert Gibbs mentioned the gathering in his daily briefing, prompting certain attendees to speak out about what was discussed behind the doors of the Cabinet Room.  While reports on the secret meeting are limited, most accounts describe the attendees leaving less than satisfied by the President's reassurances.

A New York Times article relied upon anonymous meeting attendees in its coverage of the talks and focused on Obama's admission that he was considering allowing for the "preventive detention" of terror suspects.  The secret sources described the meeting as disheartening, explaining that they left the meeting disappointed with the President's defense of taking heightened liberties when imprisoning terror suspects as a possible solution to long-term concerns over the handling of suspects who cannot be formally charged. 

In an article of greater scope, The Huffington Post relayed the impressions of Elisa Massimino, CEO of Human Rights First, who attended the meeting yesterday.  Massimino described the meeting as largely an opportunity the President created for civil liberties groups to question his recent policy decisions as a positive step towards improved transparency, though she confessed that she left the White House with many of her questions relating to the President's recent decisions unanswered.  Massimino painted a fairly tense picture of the gathering, during which Obama faced tough questions from leaders of human rights organizations and accusations that his policies were dangerously reminiscent of his predecessor's. 

Specifically, the President defended the decision not to release detainee abuse photos as a potentially temporary measure to protect the safety of American troops in Afghanistan and expressed a certain powerlessness on the issue of military tribunals.  Obama explained that his preference remains trying Guantanamo detainees in federal courts but that certain cases dictate the use of military commission.  While Massimino said she was encouraged by the President's initiation of open discussion with his critics, many of the participants remained skeptical of his policies even after the meeting.

Michael Isikoff of Newsweek, reporting on the Rachel Maddow Show, offered a more probing report of the meeting, explaining that the impressive showing of White House staff, including Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Attorney General Eric Holder, and advisor David Axelrod was evidence of the administration's concern with the left's criticisms.  He described the President's tone as defensive of comparisons to Bush more than forthcoming with any evidence to the contrary.

Obama talked about the unfortunate situation he inherited from President Bush and dismissed likenessess between his policies and his predecessor's as unhelpful.  The President continued to doubt the usefulness of a commission to investigate torture during the Bush presidency as a distraction and flat-out rejected a call for a single, symbolic criminal prosecution despite the fact that he had previously claimed that decisions of this kind would be made by Attorney General Holder.  Isikoff described this oversight as potentially damning as it exposes the President's prioritizing political repercussions over justice.  Isikoff, while not naming his sources, made it clear that liberal skepticism of the President's policies was far from assuaged by the talks yesterday.

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Stooge

Gore Vidal: The U.S. has one political party--the Property Party--with two right wings. Obama is a stooge for predatory capitalism, as anyone who's listened to him knows full well. Don't feign this shock.

Obama isnt a Kucinich but

Obama isnt a Kucinich but Kucinich lost the primary. Obama is playing a smart game, these little sellouts - so what - we were looking at literal life and death a few months ago - we were looking at doom - now we can complain about something less than total doom. I will still trust Obama the day he drafts me and orders me to march off a cliff. I will still trust Obama the day he rounds up all liberals and I am caught up and sent to a concentration camp. We can push Obama, but hey, we are not going to all get killed because of Bushs stupidity anymore. We can acknowledge reality now, like we couldnt when Bush was there stopping us. We are going to have fuel efficiency, we are going to raise the taxes of people making over $250,000 a year, we are going to get out of the Disaster in Iraq, we are going to have a treaty with the Taliban instead of a quagmire in Afghanistan. We are not looking at America going into Iran, anymore. America is not about to go over the edge, like it was. You know whats like a Bush, is saying things that you know arent true.

very well stated.... at least Obama isn't digging us into pit...

very well stated, Atmost11... But!

Obama is handing out hundreds of billions, upon trillions, of dollars to the big banksters, money which is needed to actually stimulate jobs & production in America. Needless to say, the banksters aren't stimulating either jobs or production - they frankly couldn't give a damn about US jobs, industry, or production (much less, heavens forbid, the pensions, health-care, & educational & job opportunities for American families), indeed their (the banksters') entire business model ever since the late 1990s is to ship US jobs overseas to China & India. Up till the late 1990s, US industry & finance were both riding the PC & internet booms, paying good salaries to American programers & researchers, fueling the Clinton boom and making Robert Rubin & Lawrence Summers (Clinton's then Treasury Secretaries) look good. That was a full decade ago.

Now. Pres. Obama is handing billions over to Rubin's & Summer's bankster friends, empowering his (Obama's) and our very enemies, and providing ammunition for the eventual Right-Wing backlash, which will most certainly gel just as soon as the Recession stops being the Bush-Cheney Recession, and becomes the Obama recession. We know how long that takes: Bill Clinton defeated Bush Sr. for president in the 1992 campaign because of the Bush-1 Recession, but just 2 1/2 years later, Timmy McVeigh was blowing up the Oklahoma government building, because Right-Wing hate radio had convinced McVeigh and tens of thousands of other militia ditto-heads that the Bush-1 Recession, brought on, not by "Deregulation" and crony, insider, loot-the-S&Ls and fed insurance funds corruption, but by "too much regulation" and "Tax-and-Spend Democrats" - the diametrical opposite of reality!

Thus, Obama is empowering our enemies, and robbing us of a thorough exposition of the crimes that got us here - just as Bill Clinton empowered his enemies, and paved the way for the Bush-II restoration.
Here, ConsortiumNews.com details how Clinton, in early 1993, empowered his virulent Republican opposition, by sweeping on-going criminal investigations out the door of official Washington, empowering the lying Republican "Moral Values" narrative, and whitewashing the arming of Saddam "Iraq-gate" & BCCI scandals, the Iran-Contra "trading with enemies" scandals, and the cruelty and barbarity of America's death-squad wars (Contras) in Central- and South America. HREF="http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/100307.html">http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/100307.html

He's worried about the politics of the matter.

As stated by above poster, I cannot find no other reason to believe this has become political. In a discussion with a friend on my blog, they pointed out that they believe Obama is worried about getting health care reform through congress. Health Care reform appears to be Obama's priority to get passed this year. Understandable. If he lets A.G. Holder off his leash, he's affraid of the alienation of repugs who would likely support HC-reform--primarily in the Senate. But I read on David Swanson's blog a few weeks ago in which he was in the gallery of a hearing for Mr. Holder (on another matter). When Mr. Holder walked out of the hearing, Swanson stood and asked him when and if there are going to be hearings on the torture memo's. Holder responded (paraphrasing), "you'll be proud". I took this as a sign that something is going to happen soon. I'm guessing David Swanson interpreted it this way too. However, I really don't know what to think at this point in time.

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!

He is acting like the Republicans still run this country, and like he is a scared little puppy! He is acting like the majority of the Democrats have been acting for years, when they were in the minority; like they are congenitally BACKBONELESS!!! As stated most aptly by Constitutional Law Professor Jonathan Turley, Obama has pulled off the "greatest bait and switch in history!" "He's morphing into his predecessor!"

Who?

Who in the hell is Mary Obushma? Illiterate posts are an unfortunate distraction from any meaningful discourse.

Obama Bristles at Comparisons to Bush

If Obama doesn't like being compared to Bush he should stop acting like Bush and stop carrying out Bush policies.

Obama, Would You Have Pardoned Nixon, Too?

There's something about that Oval Office that simply frees its occupant from worrying about what Bush called, "That damn piece of paper." I and all those who have died defending it, call it the United States Constitution. Yes, Cheney & Company admit they tortured. Obama will remain an enabler of torture as long as he refuses to allow his DOJ to prosecute. Here's a news flash for you Mr. President, it's fine you've stopped the practice. Now, if you'll remain president for the rest of America's history, no problem. Yes, another despot like Cheney or Bush will come along and say "I can do it because I will not be prosecuted for it." Prosecute or join the club of torturers in world history. Is this your "change" we voted for?

torture

mary Obushma is Bush in lipstick a Military thug. Squads still brutalizing prisoners at Gitmo under Obushma. Black Shirts brutalizing,gouging eyes,squeezing testicles, giving them chemicals,smearing feces on prionsers,urinating on them and its called the IRF Team, they sodomize and force petrol and benzene up the anuses of prisoners. Obushma said" this is the best way to protect our country(keeping pictures out of news} while upholding our deeply held values." Do you call this values? Also, hate to tell you but Australia news and alJazeera have already released the viedos.

What happened to "All we want is the Truth"???

We all remember that mantra, it was the key to unlock the Monica thing which was the key to shove Pres Clinton into irrelevance. Obama seems to have another, different approach: that is--our values are so high and deeply held that we can hide the truth because evidently "All we want is Protection" defines our values. And "All we want is Protection" is easily twisted into "It's OK to go to war on lies" in order to occupy and control resources because how else do we keep our precious values high? Double talk! Obama is falling into the trap of Orwellian misspeak, bush tried that and looked stupid, so Obama will try it and look smart thus our 'Values' join our Freedoms in the dumpster.