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Do you believe Justice Roberts bobbled the oath accidentally or was it intentional?

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by Chad Rubel

We are all human beings, all capable of making mistakes. And this is especially true in a pressure situation.

But sometimes you have to look at circumstances and wonder, "Was that really a mistake?" Perhaps, as fancy psychological experts will tell us, the subconscious may have more of an impact than we really give credit for, so we end up making mistakes in certain situations without consciously thinking about it.

Such was the scenario on Tuesday, say just after noon on Tuesday in Washington, DC. Two people, with the attention of the world, but only one of them leading the presentation. And that person chose consciously or subsconsciously to work without notes.

Of course, we are speaking of Chief Justice John Roberts, whose role is to administer the oath to the incoming president of the United States.

The other major oath of the day went very smoothly. The senior Associate Justice, John Paul Stevens, at 88, gave a pleasant oath that required way more words than Roberts had to struggle with.

But did Roberts bungle the oath on purpose? Or did he mess up subconsciously filled with emotion over having to administer the oath to Barack Obama? After all, Obama was one of 22 senators not to vote to confirm Roberts to the Court.

Regardless of political viewpoints, the pattern has been clear where extreme right-wing justices don't put aside politics when ruling from the bench or conducting themselves in public. After all, then Chief Justice William Rehnquist said to President Clinton in 1993 after swearing him in, "Good luck, you'll need it."

The Supreme Court later ruled that the Paula Jones case would not "distract" from the presidency, thus giving Ken Starr the opening he needed to set impeachment in motion.

And of course, Rehnquist, Scalia, et al. went against every judicial precedent in their most political decision to grant George W. Bush the presidency, despite the likelihood that if all the votes were counted, Clinton's vice president, Al Gore, would be the winner.

The right-wing went nuts (even though Roberts was clearly at fault and actually messed up the words a second time), portraying Barack Obama as illegitimate since the oath wasn't read properly. And it's not as if Roberts has to worry about job security. Roberts turns 54 on Tuesday in a lifetime job.

(The oath was retaken flawlessly but that won't be the lasting impact, especially among the right wing.)

If you are willing to assume the possibility that perhaps it was an innocent mistake, consider that Stevens, a Republican selected by Gerald Ford, and 34 years older than Roberts, was flawless. Subconsciously or not, there is that possibility that there was some malice involved.

But let us know what you think. Was it an innocent mistake or was there more to it?

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Do you believe Justice Roberts bobbled the oath accidentally or

Justice Roberts' word stumble was triggered by his momentary state of "shock-panic" over the staggering size of the inauguration crowd who in reality, would have mowed-him-down then and there, if he had suddenly decided sua sponte, to obstruct Obama's path to the Presidency. Remember, ALL U.S. Judges take to heart the following quote by Justice Holmes: "The foundation of jurisdiction is physical power. . . ." What we experienced at the Inauguration of POTUS-44 was physical power of the people, by the people, for the people. It is good the Chief Justice was reminded he does not have the final say over jurisdiction in the United States.

Neo-Conservative Ideologues . . .

The Presidential Oath administered by chief justice John Roberts was, I believe firmly, intentionally misread. Mr. Roberts is now a martry in the eyes of those that hold neo-conservative ideals above God and Country. These neo-conservative ideologues have in the past performed treasonous acts against the United States and it appears that they will continue these treasonous activities into the future. God help us and Bless the United States. Semper Fi Marines.

Twisted

Everyone who pays attention knows Republicans are crooked, ethically and sexually. Attempting to treat them with respect and dignity degrades respect and dignity.

justice roberts

rooth The whole world is waiting for this man, Barack. We can help the world forget the headlines overseas when Bush was elected - What are these people thinking? We need Barack for our country, our future, our place in history. Justice Roberts showed just how arrogant a man he is by presuming he knew the oath so well that nothing could shake his memory. It was unfortunate his comeuppance had to be at the expense of our new President. That picture of a flawless oath=taking is now lost forever due to the mindlessness of a man whose place on the Court, I, for one, have always resented.

Roberts' Flub Intentional?

Well, Roberts looked uncommonly nervous, which could be read either way. I find it hard to believe, however, that he went up there intending to make himself look like a jerk, which is what he did. Was he so determined to get "So help me God" in that he stumbled? I hadn't thought of that, but it doesn't seem unlikely.

Chief Juicetice Roberts

I think he intended to make Obama say "So help me God" on the end, which made him so anxious that he flubbed the "execute" line. Roberts gives the word "petite" a deeper meaning.

Execute them!!!

Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld should be in prison awaiting execution for war crimes, treason, torture, violations of international law, and violations of the U. S. Constitution.

As temping as it is.........

...... to assume that he may have messed up on purpose, I think it came down to nerves. He's a fairly new judge and he had to administer the oath to the new president. Besides, since he was appointed by Bush, he probably didn't even realize he messed up (or spoke like Bush himself) until Obama paused in continuing the oath. After eight years of Bush, flipping words sounds NORMAL! Quick question: Why is it that the VP says when taking his oath, ".... protect the Constitution against all enemies FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC" and the president doesn't???? Personally, the VP oath is more substantial than the president's.

perhaps "lyin' OAF" is a

perhaps "lyin' OAF" is a better moniker for this jerk who represents why women should have a choice...(his mother obviously made the wrong one)

he is a bush man

what would you expect?

Retire

sounds like sour grapes to me. The people have spoken, let president Obama govern. I can understand BF looking for something to write about but don't waste time on sore losers they are not worth it. It's time to move on with the business of the people. Not trivial stuff. If that's all the opposition has...

A Very Public "Shot Across the Bow"

Could be because Obama got the job on the Harvard Law Review that he couldn't get? As an over-achiever and a man with the supposedly world-class intellect this is more than passing odd. Could it be a very public, shot across the bow, from the head of the Federal Judiciary? Cheers, Flageek

Oath of Office bumbling 'intentional'?

Would BF get serious? This is not a serious question. As BO said, time to put childish things away. Michael S. Cullen Berlin, Germany

Robert-s-s-s-s

I thought he did it on purpose before I saw this question - so did several of my friends! The Republicans will do ANYTHING to cause trouble for the Democrats and especially President Obama. They act like vengful children (we didn't win so we're taking our ball and going home!)

Heck of a Job Chiefy...

Just another Bush Appointee showing that he can do a 'Heck of a Job!!!'

Clarence Thomas Should Have Done It

I believe if it had been McCain there, Roberts would have done the same. I really think Clarence Thomas should have administered the oath. Obama would still be standing there, because Thomas wouldn't have spoken, same as on the SCOTUS' bench.

Roberts needs to be encouraged to "retire"

Along with the turds who voted to shove bush down our throats.

Oh really!

Is that right? Roberts should be encouraged to retire.... So that Barack Obama can establish a solid 5 justice liberal majority? Give me a break! If I wanted that, I would have voted for John Flip-flop Kerry in 2004! Besides, your better hopes are in 72-year-old Scalia or 72-year old Kennedy in the next 4-8 years (12-16 if Hillary Clinton 3rd or 4th terms the White House).

BUZZ! Congratulations! You've Just Violated The Revised Godwin's

Law, which states that any argument that uses "liberal", "progressive" or "socialist" as a pejorative is ipso facto absurd, and completely unworthy of any form of serious consideration as anything other than a blatant Righttard troll!

Thank you for playing - and don't let the doorknob hit you on the ass on your way out!

presidential oath of office

Roberts has a seizure disorder. Perhaps he has some brain damage that causes him to make errors. Maybe he has a brain tumor.

brain tumor

On WHAT?

Symptomatic but not purposeful...

Symptomatic of illness I would say, and not purposeful. In an appearance before hundreds of millions of people which marked the first time the Justice has pierced the public consciousness since his confirmation, he screwed up, big time... No one does that purposefully, but subconsciously he may have been looking for a way to signal his disability. And this episode points out that there is no mechanism for inquiring into his fitness short of an impeachment hearing.
Let the hearing begin...
RGJ/Dallas112263

It was doomed to be an awkward moment, nothing more

Before the inauguration, I predicted that there would be an awkward moment between incoming president Barack Obama and Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. Barack Obama was one of 22 justices to vote against his confirmation and part of the democratic group that voted to filibuster Roberts' colleague, Justice Samual Alito Jr. The inauguration was historic in many ways. Besides being the first justice to swear in a black man to the presidency ( a mile marker no doubt), it was also the first time a chief justice swore in a person to the presidency that voted against his confirmation. It is pretty easy to guess at some of their thoughts. Chief Justice Roberts: "Do I have to swear in that douchebag? President Obama: "Do I have to let that douchebag swear me in?" Although my prediction turned out right, I did not think it would be obvious. It was probably a rookie mistake on Roberts' part. This is the first time he has performed this duty. Moreover, you can't expect Roberts to have felt comfortable considering how much the crowd booed outgoing George W. Bush, the man that named him to the court. He probably wanted to get the hell out of there. I would have wanted to do the same thing if I were in Robert's shoes considering how long the crowd chanted "nana nana nana nana, hey hey hey, gooooooood byeeeee," to the outgoing president.

You Have To Ask?

Of course it was deliberate! The new motto of the GOP is to never allow an opportunity to make the majority Democrats look bad to pass unmolested. It's merely a variant of the old motto, which was to never allow an opportunity to kick the minority Democrats when they're down to pass unmolested.

The Republicans and their groupies are about the sorriest thing America has to show the world about what blowhard hypocrites we are as a nation. We have yet to return the mutants to their corporate crypts once and for all as they would have long ago.

intent / no intent

Oh thank Mulder you've raised this oath issue again. You know, of course, that the oath was resworn (see http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/01/21/Obama_oath_Take_2/UPI-38531232599754/ ). I understand the entire second ceremony really took place in or near area 51. "Buzzflash, please give up on this conspiracy theory." [And, of course, you recognize that there are 51 letters and spaces in the previous sentence.] 51 characters. Area 51. Justice Roberts is an alien. I'd reference my previous comment on yesterday's mullings (http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1892#comment-42055) but someone might catch on. Nanu. Nanu.

Drprodny

Drprodny man you don't know limp from your backside..... President Obama apparently has no appetite to go after Bush for WAR CRIMES and you're wringing out your panties over a freakin non-issue ie Roberts' dopey mistake. Please remove your head from said backside......

Just Like Hillary, Rosebeck - REAL Tough on Your Friends

and eager to bend over and grab your cheeks for any Right-Wing Fascist w/a cool uniform and a BIG gun!

What is you Rethug Lite Clinton-LIEberman-sucking "Centrists'" damage, anyway? These people are all traitors - and should be treated to a Traitor's Justice!

Selah.

What about their supporters, "Doc"?

I mean, .... you voted for Hillary. You voted for and even campaigned for Ralph Nader, who you now call a racist. So if the "Centrists" (and racists?) are "all traitors" who "should be treated to a Traitor's Justice!", then what about the people who supported them and, in fact, gave them their power by putting them in office? Wouldn't they be aiding and abetting treason?

Maybe you fall under some sort of "perennial dupe" exception?

BTW, "Doc" - Hate to break it to you (although it appears you've begun to realize it on your own over the past couple of months), but Obama's a centrist. Does that mean he's also a "traitor"?

BBTW - What the hell does a "Traitor's Justice" mean, anyway? If you're gonna throw that out there, why not just grow a set and explain exactly what you mean? Unless, of course ...

....... that's what your recent surgery was trying to take care of.

Racist Roberts Rove Republican

On purpose!

Don't be ridiculous

Apparently Roberts is a stickler for a rigid view of where adverbs should go - not between "to" and the verb, so "to faithfully execute" is not how he prefers to say it and he overcorrected the text from the Constitution.

Sometimes a mistake is just a mistake. No need to get all paranoid like FoxNews.

Here's the link to Steven Pinker's op-ed piece in the NYTimes, "Oaf of Office." Pinker is a professor at Harvard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/opinion/22pinker.html?ref=opinion

Colleen Clark
Cambridge, MA

mistake>apology

Roberts' mistake>just do the oath AGAIN? Why didn't Roberts make a public apology? The man is a bully (that means aggressive coward in his case) and a bigot. Just the kind who would mess things up on purpose.

Faux News

Faux news is STILL playing this like a serious issue of wonderment. And wow, there were no cameras for the second oath. Did it happen? Gee, and the signing statements are they legal? Wow. Fox and everyone else who is roaring about this, including Buzz Flash, GROW UP. Obama became Pres. one second after noon, oath or not.

Roberts is a coward.

He didn't have the guts to ask Obama for a photo I.D. Of course it was on purpose.

Bobbled Oath

While I really do not like the current crop of Republicans and while it is true that Chief Justice Roberts is a deep Red Republican, I think he made an inncocent mistake on giving the oath to Obama.

an act of passive-aggression

which is usually sub-conscious. Believe I said this on yesterday's survey piece. And will again tomorrow, should there be another one.

Oath of office

Oath or not, Obama became the president at noon on January 20, 2009. However, given the seething anger by certain segments of the nation, not excluding some members of our Supreme Court, the president's counsel was correct in recommending retaking the oath. I believe that it would be further prudent for him to reissue any documents signed in the interim. I can foresee future lawsuits challenging their validity and our nation does not need the harassment and time-consuming efforts that might be required to respond.

Roberts

I'm a liberal. Voted for BO and this very question is embarrassing. You people (including the editor of Buzzflash) are complete idiots. Ever wonder why the word "liberal" has become a 4-letter word? Didn't think so. Grow the F up..........

rosebeck - Actually, It's You Limp Appeasers

without the courage of your convictions, who give "liberal" a bad name....

Robert's flubbed oath

If the man is too stupid to administer a short oath, why should we believe he is smart enough to be a Supreme Court Judge? I say, impeach the no-goodnick ASAP. What a pity he did not fly away with troll-boy bush.

Well, That Had Been MY Thought....

If nothing else, a Supreme Court Chief Justice who can't remember a simple 35-word Oath right out of the Constitution he (ostensibly) has sworn to "Preserve, Protect and Defend" - and who it is his job to interpret? Impeach him for Criminal Incompetence, if nothing else!

Roberts flub up

I am quite certain there was at least subconscious malice bubbling under the surface of the Roberts flub up. Even Obama paused trying to decide if he should say it correctly or be respectful and repeat what Roberts told him to say. I personally think that Roberts is the one that looked like a jack-ass, I mean the guy is a Supreme Court judge, it made him look stupid to be quite frank. How could you mess that up? I mean, come on!

Roberts fouled up deliberately

Just as the Other Party drops the "-ic" when referring to the Democratic party, so Roberts, by refusing to take along an index card with the oath written on it, allowed the foul-up to happen. It's their little way of showing contempt for us. May Goddess deal with them as they deserve. D. M. Read Author of Layoffs http://www.layoffsbook.com

Subtext of the Federalists is bigotry, no?

If it wasn't done on purpose, then it was a pretty good example of PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE behavior! Is it true that Roberts added that last line "so help you God?" on purpose -- like Obama was on trial or something? (Saw that on another blog and can't find a confirmation that it is part of the oath process.) Most of all, since Roberts is a Federalist, and made a ruling supporting the Bush torture machine (that was when he was still serving on a lower court), and also appears to be a closet theocrat -- I don't see anything there to make me think he didn't do it on purpose. His thought processes are already sufficiently REACTIONARY to accept and promote those backward notions, so what's to stop him from having a bet on the side with Scalia that he could make Obama stumble on the oath of office? Roberts is a crazy reactionary. A real Chief Justass.

So Help You God!?

Read the Constitution. It's online, and it's not long. The oath is there. "So Help Me God," is not.

Obama seemed flabbergasted

Obama seemed flabbergasted and knew Roberts f'd it up. Roberts couldn't remember his lines. He should have had it written down.

Obama kinda messed up too

Not that I really think this is an issue of any great import, but Obama did actually kinda mess up at the beginning as well, when he started repeating before Roberts was finished. It is possible that this is what caused Roberts to lose his train of thought.. Both men were undoubtedly incredibly nervous. It's a lot different being on that platform and speaking at a live event in front of 2 million people than it is watching it on the television. Hardcore pressure on both sides. No, I don't think Roberts did this deliberately, nor do I think it was necessary to retake the oath. It is unfortunate, as I'm sure Mr. Obama would have liked that moment to be done right, and preserved for all time, but you know.. shit happens.

Nope

It sounded that way to me at first as well, but Obama was attempting the correct form here, while Roberts skipped the first pause-for-response. This was NPR's analysis, and they played Bush's 2000 swearing-in where it played out smoothly in the pattern that Obama clearly expected.

Ken Duerksen
Oxford, Ohio

Perhaps Roberts is just another unaccomplished right-wing croney

Roberts kissed Scalia's and Rhenquist's butts to achieve his current position. Its entirely possible that he is incapable of memorizing 30-some words. A good rule of thumb may be that the most highly ranked Republicans will be the stupidest.

haahahahah good one Ken duerksen

Perhaps everyone that does not agree with you is a crony you fucking troll. If you intend to accuse people of stupidity, at least check your fucking spelling, retard!

I agree. It was just

I agree. It was just another example of the consistent incompetence and stupidity of Bush appointees. I was surprised that Roberts was arrogant enough to read the Oath without a cue card. But then again, arrogance was another hallmark of the Bush administration.