Amendments to FISA revision squashed, bill to pass this afternoon
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ALERT
by Amy Weiss
The debate on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Amendments Act continued on the Senate floor Wednesday and all three proposed amendments that would eliminate or make conditional the telecom immunity were defeated.
Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) warned that if this bill passes today, "I'm confident history will not judge this Congress kindly."
Feingold also emphasized that the majority of Congress has not been fully briefed on the President's wiretapping program. Because of the classification of detailed documents, only a few Senators, including himself, have been permitted to read about the program.
"If more information is declassified in the future...," he said, "members of this body will regret that we passed this legislation."
Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) thanked the blogosphere, Internet petitioners, and concerned citizens for their leadership against the bill. He said the notion that we have to sacrifice liberty for security is a "fundamentally flawed idea," that Americans have regretted every time they've chosen it, referencing the internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII.
Dodd also said he is certain that this matter will not end even if the bill passes today, and that the constitutionality of granting immunity to the telecommunications companies will be challenged in the courts in the future.
Dodd, Feingold, and Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) sponsored an amendment to completely strike Article 2 of the bill, which gives retroactive immunity to the telecommunications companies. The amendment was defeated with 32 senators voting for it, and 66 voting against it.
Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA), the ranking minority member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, also offered an amendment requiring the district courts to review the constitutionality of the president's surveillance program. He warned that the bill is asking the Senate to do two dangerous things. It asks the Senate to vote on something it does not understand and to "fly in the face" of Marbury v. Madison, the 1803 Supreme Court decision that established judicial review.
He said, "We are dealing with a matter of historical importance ... I believe historians will look back on this period from 9/11 ... as the greatest expansion of executive power," but also said he is "prepared to stomach this bill if I must, but ... I do not believe it is too late to make this bill better." Specter's amendment was defeated 37-61.
The final amendment, proposed by Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), which would require a stay on over 40 pending court cases and an investigation before granting retroactive immunity, was defeated by a vote of 42-56.
Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), who has endured criticism for changing his position to support FISA, voted for all three amendments but indicated he will still support the final bill. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is campaigning in Ohio today and was not present for the votes. The final vote will take place this afternoon after the Republican Party's weekly lunch and is expected to pass.
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The rest of the internment story
Does Senator Dodd know that almost 11,000 German Americans and 3,500 Italian Americans were interned in the U.S. during World War II?
Senator Dodd and his colleagues should visit Freedom of Information Times [foitimes.com] to learn of this little-known episode of American history.
The FISA Vote
Sooth the right?
A criminal act is not how to rid the WH of criminals. You sound like PM Chamberlain after his return from meeting Hitler.
What you are asking for is the most rightwing a$$hole we can elect.
We need to start now with moves to rid our party of the GOP sympathizers and imbeds. I am not asking you to change a vote now BUT remember to use your donations to get rid of the crap floating in our party.
Have a great day
:D
Letter to Obama campaign
FISA
Obama votes to cave in to Bush on FISA...Idiot
Interesting that Clinton voted "no"
Immunity
The immunity from civil suits protects the shareholder. Why should the working man or woman who invested his retirement in telecom stock be subject to a civil suit for a criminal act he had no knowledge of?
There is no immunity here for criminal acts.. All we need is an administration that will obey the law and investigate and prosecute lawbreaking.
Civil suits would be a waste of time. Corporations are expert at delaying strategies, so the people pursuing civil penalties would run out of money and give it up.
This isn't Faux News
Criminal prosecutions will never happen because Dubya will pardon the perps.
And just in case you're tempted to suggest that Dubya can't pardon people until they're indicted - that would be false. The President can pardon anyone anytime for any reason - whether indicted or impeached or none of the above. That's how Ford pardoned Nixon.
Civil suits against the telcom conspirators are the only way to find out what treason they committed with and for Cheney and Rove.
Democrats surrender (again)
This bill, like the numerous bills to extend the war, need never have come to the floor.
Roll over Nancy. Roll over Harry. Your owner is calling.
Any Chance of It Being Ruled Unconstitutional?
...and I hope everyone who's slapped me and other Progressives around for criticizing Obama's caving on the FISA bill will remember that McCain made himself scarce today - so he can later beat Obama up for voting against the Bill of Rights and Rule of Law! Just you watch and see if he doesn't do JUST that....
McCain a no vote